Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

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Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by The Choker » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:57 pm

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Elaina F. George, MD


ObamaCare's Cost Of Control


by Elaina F. George, MD

ObamaCare advocates are struggling to convince Americans that the takeover of health care is the best thing ever.

Even celebrities are helping the White House explain the benefits of being forced into a ethically and morally bankrupt system built on promises never intended to be kept.

One thing they aren't willing to say is that it isn't really about health care; ObamaCare is really about centralized government control.

It's about control of one-sixth of the economy.

All working Americans must submit proof of insurance or enter an "exchange." Exchange participants must submit their tax return, Social Security number, employer's tax ID, bank account information, address and telephone number. If one changes jobs and ends up pricing out of the government supplement, the government will want its money back. Either say goodbye to tax benefits or say hello to working as little as possible to remain eligible for assistance.

It's about control of physicians.

Because of regulations, compliance costs and the rising cost of doing business — coupled with the dramatic drop in reimbursements — independent private physicians are largely being driven into retirement or into the arms of hospitals or large group practices increasingly part of large hospital systems.

A hospital's cost structure is vastly different than that of a private physician, with overhead and a fiduciary responsibility to stockholders at the top of the list. A patient's cost doubles or triples in a hospital-owned practice as opposed to that of a private physician.

It's about control of privacy.

Under the guise of efficiency and savings, physicians and patients are encouraged to get on the electronic medical record bandwagon. It creates a treasure trove of private medical information mined by government agencies that include the Department of Health and Human Services, IRS, and FBI. Can the NSA and CIA be far behind, if they aren't in the loop already?

If someone was prescribed an antidepressant for something as benign as helping them stop smoking, for example, it could raise a flag and cause them to fail a background check for a gun permit.

It's about control of your money.

The middle class was told ObamaCare would sock it to the rich and redistribute wealth as a doctrine of fairness. In reality, wealthy people such as Warren Buffet can still pay a lower tax rate than their secretaries. Corporations such as Apple and GE are paying little or no taxes, and are exempt from paying for ObamaCare until 2015. But small business and the middle class are both currently on the hook right now — effectively responsible for paying the way of both the wealthy and the poor.

For anyone critically examining the costs of ObamaCare, it is obvious the middle class takes an enormous hit:

Employers will no longer be able to write off employee coverage as a business expense, making them more likely to drop coverage altogether.

Employees cannot write off health insurance premiums.

The threshold for writing off personal health expenses jumped to almost $10,000 out of pocket.

Health savings account users cannot use their account funds to purchase cost-effective over-the-counter medication or nutritional supplements; only more expensive prescription medication is covered.

ObamaCare's "silver" plan will have a monthly premium, but individuals must also pay $2,000 out-of-pocket before the insurance kicks in. Imagine a minimum wage worker or family having to pay into the system while also owing $2,000 dollars annually just to access it. It will decrease participation by posing the difficult decision of seeing a doctor or paying bills.

It's about control of your freedom.

New York City is the template. Big soda and popcorn bans are only the beginning.

Under the guise of "meaningful use," health care personnel collect all sorts of information: height, weight, vaccination history, mental state and even gun ownership are some examples of patient data being collected.

Because ObamaCare is a socialized collectivist system, everyone is tied together. If a group is deemed to be taking more resources, they will be dealt with. For example, if someone's body mass index is too high, they could be labeled a risk for heart disease or diabetes. Since obesity is now considered a disease, expect mandated behavior modification. In the future, for instance, don't be surprised if buying soda or potato chips with an EBT card involves an analysis of health records — with those considered obese prohibited from such purchases. It's basic social engineering.

Put simply — ObamaCare is a corrupt scheme that has fooled too many Americans into entering a system limiting their health care choices, encroaching upon their freedom, robbing them of their hard-earned money and destroying their privacy.

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Dr. Elaina George, a member of the national advisory council of the Project 21 black leadership network, is a board-certified otolaryngologist and host of a weekly talk radio show, "Medicine On Call," that explores health issues and the politics of medicine. Comments may be sent to Project21@nationalcenter.org.


Source: http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21NVGeor ... 90813.html

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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by Cutnstuf » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:49 pm

It's also about keeping healthcare costs down. I saw an article earlier today about the cost of bag of saline. It about 44 cents. By the time the hospital gets done with their mark up, you get charged about 90 dollars. Oh, you wanted that plugged into your arm, that'll be about another 125 dollars. You know what their answer is? It's basically what the market will bear. My advise, don't get sick, you can't afford it.

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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by hyperlexis » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:13 pm

Apparently obsession isn't just a perfume.

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Post by stage0 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:21 pm

The ACA is about controlling the cost of healthcare.....ie. no care. I have ALREADY seen care denied to ppl needing a sleep study. The reason is mainly from a person in another state calling the shots; not the ordering physician. The health reasons the would dictate the need for a sleep study, I will not state due to privacy violatons.

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Post by Goofproof » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:29 pm

Cutnstuf wrote:It's also about keeping healthcare costs down. I saw an article earlier today about the cost of bag of saline. It about 44 cents. By the time the hospital gets done with their mark up, you get charged about 90 dollars. Oh, you wanted that plugged into your arm, that'll be about another 125 dollars. You know what their answer is? It's basically what the market will bear. My advise, don't get sick, you can't afford it.
Please list the government run programs that are run that keep costs down, feel free to use true numbers only not governments lies.

Post office NO
Social Security NO
Banking Oversite NO
Stock Market Oversite NO
Energy Oversite NO
Fair Tax System NO
Power of the Press (Printing money with out worth) NO

Even more disturbing, ignoring the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by idamtnboy » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:54 pm

Goofproof wrote: Please list the government run programs that are run that keep costs down, feel free to use true numbers only not governments lies.

Post office NO
Apparently the USPS does a pretty good job of keeping costs down. Why else would UPS and FedEx contract with the PO to provide last mile delivery of packages? They must be able to do it for less money, right?
UPS Mail Innovations
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Goofproof wrote:Please list the government run programs that are run that keep costs down, feel free to use true numbers only not governments lies.
Thrift Savings Plan YES
Costs really matter - the 0.03 percent annual expense ratio compares to the 401(k) industry average expenses of 2.00 percent, as noted by a recent LA Times article by fellow blogger Kathy Kristof. To put the costs in perspective, the average 401(k) plan costs 67 times the amount of the TSP
As compelling as the TSP is, the final proof that this is the model for all 401(k)s is the fact that the financial industry hates it. The Investment Company Institute, the trade organization for mutual funds, published a paper questioning the TSP as a model for 401(k)s. You can bet that anything that threatens the mutual fund industry's profits is probably a good thing for investors.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162- ... 01k-plans/

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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by Goofproof » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:48 pm

idamtnboy wrote:
Goofproof wrote: Please list the government run programs that are run that keep costs down, feel free to use true numbers only not governments lies.

Post office NO
Apparently the USPS does a pretty good job of keeping costs down. Why else would UPS and FedEx contract with the PO to provide last mile delivery of packages? They must be able to do it for less money, right?
UPS Mail Innovations
FedEx Smart Post
Point missed USPS is losing money, UPS AND FEDEX are making money, even more by farming out delivery to the USPS, so the tax payers lose even more $$$.
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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by idamtnboy » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:35 pm

Goofproof wrote:Point missed USPS is losing money, UPS AND FEDEX are making money, even more by farming out delivery to the USPS, so the tax payers lose even more $$$.
Ahh, but consider the minimum revenue per delivery stop. For UPS and FedEx it's what, about $5, $6, or $7, and for USPS about $0.17. USPS could make a lot of money also it were allowed to collect a minimum of $5 per delivery stop.

BTW, the Post Office was established as a taxpayer supported function of the Federal Government. The Constitution does not require that it be profitable. Plus, what's wrong with taxpayers supporting private business by way of subsidized contracts? The primary purpose of the Federal Government is to support business, isn't it? At least that seems to be what a lot of the Repub politicos think.

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Post by Goofproof » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:15 am

Our government is now a tax payer supported bussiness, the problem the people can't make enough money to support it, so they have to print worthless money in hopes the world won't get wise!

Germany did this in WW2, it didn't work well for them!

For those who don't realise, the loss of monitary vaule is also raising taxes. The less our money is worth, and the more of it we make the higher taxes become, even at the same tax rate we pay more.

A penny saved nowdays isn't a penny earned, it's only .25 cents earned. Maybe we should live like our kids do live from paycheck to paycheck, at least what we earn will be ours and not takes by inflation.

Maybe the Ant was the fool and the Grasshopper was smart, after all the government will meet all out needs. Jim
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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

Post by pootsie » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:26 am

The TRUE purpose is to make you gay-marry socialist farm animals in a Muslim Brotherhood ceremony

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!

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Post by 49er » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:20 pm

pootsie wrote:The TRUE purpose is to make you gay-marry socialist farm animals in a Muslim Brotherhood ceremony

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!
Did you send an invitation to Choker?

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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

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pootsie wrote:The TRUE purpose is to make you gay-marry socialist farm animals in a Muslim Brotherhood ceremony

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!
Seek professional help!

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Re: Obamacare Is Not About Healthcare

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49er wrote:
pootsie wrote:The TRUE purpose is to make you gay-marry socialist farm animals in a Muslim Brotherhood ceremony

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!
Did you send an invitation to Choker?

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Well I am already gay married and I have a beautiful Shepherd who comes from a long line of sheep herders. I am sure he could be trained to wake up Sheeple.
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The Choker wrote:
49er wrote:
pootsie wrote:The TRUE purpose is to make you gay-marry socialist farm animals in a Muslim Brotherhood ceremony

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!
Did you send an invitation to Choker?

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Well I am already gay married and I have a beautiful Shepherd who comes from a long line of sheep herders. I am sure he could be trained to wake up Sheeple.
Thanks Choker for responding in the spirit that you did. Even though we disagree on most political issues, I like your sense of humor.

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