Pugsy! PR just said a dirty word as he bumped my beautiful precious thread!

Don't let them rule you either, PR, with what language people around you use. Free your mind to free your soul. Hmm, should I listen to the manufacturers, or you... such a delima. I'd be happy if you just put me on your put-on-the-foe-list list for a while. Just don't ever put me on your actual foe...

i'm just here as a UN observer. So an UN-observer manages to unsee something already seen, as opposed to a NON-observer? Now MY head hurts! Or did you mean United Nations? If so ya better hurry before you get unfunded like the WHO. I think it was because they wasted all those guitars during their c...

BiPAP IS technically correct, whether it has been TMed or not. Just as APAP IS technically correct, whether it has been TMed or not. Which brand TMed which in a market move to prevent its use in advertisement literature of other brands is, I maintain, an irrelevant discussion that derails threads ab...

Respironics makes the brand name "BiPAP". False. Respironics is the brand. Not correct. I don't care whether a machine is called a BIPAP or a bilevel, but BIPAP is a product brand name. Individual products or product lines must have their own established brands. This is useful when a corporation or...

Thank you for allowing me to directly address your sincere statement about your "trouble understanding." The problem with the false preciseness on BiPAP is on several forums and in many posts. But using your example: only one is a "bipap" False. Any machine providing bilevel is rightly called a BiPA...

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:24 pm

Sometimes the incorrect and imprecise use of trademarked names is unhelpful and correcting is helpful.

And just as often, if not more so, the incorrect and imprecise "corrections" on accepted use of words that somebody somewhere has TMed is particularly UNhelpful.

Didn't realize PR ONLY respects wording of manufacturers. Good to know. Of course, manufacturers play all kinds of word games. Even ResMed has attempted to TM pert near the entire dictionary, it seems: https://www.resmed.com/en-us/legal-ip/ Manufacturers don't rule the world. Don't let them rule you...

Yes, of course, one can always insist on narrow definitions that no one respected in the industry insists on. That is your right. As it is the right of others to respect the researchers, doctors, journalists, CPAP com, newbies, and pretty much the rest of the known universe on their opinions of what...

you are . . . accomplished Thank you, sir. That may be the nicest thing you've ever said to me (and possibly anyone, for that matter). :lol: :roll: My manager now requires that I insert a joke between songs every second or third song in my set. It's just how the solo-act business works these days.

I have updated the Wikipedia List of generic and genericized trademarks to reflect jnk...'s decision that BiPAP is now generalized and the accepted public-domain, nontrademarked way to refer to bilevel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks BiPAP-BiLevel.png It's ...

The point you are missing, Granny, is that if someone comes to this forum and posts, "Last night I took an aspirin, blew my nose on a kleenex, then took a benadryl," are you going to try to be helpful to them? or are you instead going to nitpick and start correcting them that, no, they actually took...

OR "Kleenex", who here is old enuff to remember that? One difference, though, is that the entry for the word "Kleenex" in Merriam-Webster still acknowledges it as being only a trademark word; whereas, the abbreviation "BiPAP" is not so acknowledged as such in either its own standalone entry or when...

de-derailing = railing? Yes. When someone tries to derail a thread by detracting from the question a newbie is actually asking and instead goes off by preaching incorrectly that only certain bilevels can rightly be called BiPAPs, I try to get the thread back on track by debunking that derailing. It...

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:55 pm

duck and cover a little faster.

Nah. I know you enjoy seeing me get slapped around when I deserve it--almost as much as you enjoy operating heavy equipment, despite the warnings on your prescriptions. No. Really. I get it.