Pros/cons of getting a new machine
Pros/cons of getting a new machine
My ResMed S6 CPAP is at its 14th anniversary. It's been in use daily and is still going strong according to my manometer. Interestingly, the hour meter display on the underside of the machine no longer changes. My sleep doctor assumes this means that it has gotten more hours than the software would have anticipated, hence it just stopped recording.
I am considering the pros and cons of getting a new CPAP because (a) I can, due to this one's age; (b) the blower motor will eventually wear out, so get a new one now to avoid sleep disruption; and (c) new models offer monitoring options that might benefit me, e.g., using ResMed's myAir app with one of their compatible model 10 machines. On the con side, I am between jobs, and while I have insurance through the ACA Marketplace, I am nowhere near meeting my deductible so will probably have to pay for the machine out of pocket.
So, what do you think? (a) Get a new machine now you idiot! What are you waiting for? (b) Prioritize getting a new machine when you have some income coming in. Until then, hang on. (c) If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (d)
Also, assuming I wish to stick with ResMed, I assume my sleep doctor will prescribe some flavor of the model 10 since it is their frontline model, but might there be some reason to consider the S9, e.g., cost?
I am considering the pros and cons of getting a new CPAP because (a) I can, due to this one's age; (b) the blower motor will eventually wear out, so get a new one now to avoid sleep disruption; and (c) new models offer monitoring options that might benefit me, e.g., using ResMed's myAir app with one of their compatible model 10 machines. On the con side, I am between jobs, and while I have insurance through the ACA Marketplace, I am nowhere near meeting my deductible so will probably have to pay for the machine out of pocket.
So, what do you think? (a) Get a new machine now you idiot! What are you waiting for? (b) Prioritize getting a new machine when you have some income coming in. Until then, hang on. (c) If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (d)
Also, assuming I wish to stick with ResMed, I assume my sleep doctor will prescribe some flavor of the model 10 since it is their frontline model, but might there be some reason to consider the S9, e.g., cost?
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
(d) find a decent lightly used machine on your own, and get the new one when your finances are in better shape.
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Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
I can recommend secondwindcpap.com for a lightly used model. They were great to work with.
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
You could probably find a S9 model online somewhere and save considerable money out of pocket unless your local DME offers a better deal since you will likely be paying cash due to your deductible.
The AirSense models are nice but the overall algorithm or how they go about doing their job is the same algorithm as in the S9.
The model changes from S9 to AirSense 10 was mainly cosmetic with some additional customization options relating to heated hose and humidity. They did add CSR respiration flagging with the AirSense 10 but that's not a deal maker IMHO unless someone has a lot of central apneas.
Check and see if cash price available is within your budget. Your current machine may go for years (I have a friend who still has his first machine ever and it has to be 25 years old now and still blowing strong but he does have a spare that he uses for travel and is available if his old, large and bulky 25 year old machine finally dies) but if it fails you may not be able to get a new replacement quickly...like weekend or holiday.
Here's a really good deal on a S9 from cpap.com
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ifier.html
It's kind of an ugly pink (originally released for breast cancer awareness) but with the light's out you can't see the color but if it is just too annoying there are some sports themed skins available to cover it or you can even design your own from skinit.com.
You might also check out secondwindcpap.com for their new open box zero hour machines or even a gently used low hour machine.
Your insurance may or may not require a new sleep study to even allow the new machine to be considered an expense that would go towards your deductible. So that's another potential expense....a sleep study.
You have several options...I do think that having a spare "just in case" is a really good idea. That way Murphy's Law won't jump up and bite you on the butt on a weekend or holiday when it might be impossible to get with a local DME to get a replacement quickly.
The AirSense models are nice but the overall algorithm or how they go about doing their job is the same algorithm as in the S9.
The model changes from S9 to AirSense 10 was mainly cosmetic with some additional customization options relating to heated hose and humidity. They did add CSR respiration flagging with the AirSense 10 but that's not a deal maker IMHO unless someone has a lot of central apneas.
Check and see if cash price available is within your budget. Your current machine may go for years (I have a friend who still has his first machine ever and it has to be 25 years old now and still blowing strong but he does have a spare that he uses for travel and is available if his old, large and bulky 25 year old machine finally dies) but if it fails you may not be able to get a new replacement quickly...like weekend or holiday.
Here's a really good deal on a S9 from cpap.com
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ifier.html
It's kind of an ugly pink (originally released for breast cancer awareness) but with the light's out you can't see the color but if it is just too annoying there are some sports themed skins available to cover it or you can even design your own from skinit.com.
You might also check out secondwindcpap.com for their new open box zero hour machines or even a gently used low hour machine.
Your insurance may or may not require a new sleep study to even allow the new machine to be considered an expense that would go towards your deductible. So that's another potential expense....a sleep study.
You have several options...I do think that having a spare "just in case" is a really good idea. That way Murphy's Law won't jump up and bite you on the butt on a weekend or holiday when it might be impossible to get with a local DME to get a replacement quickly.
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Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
Avoid any S9 with the word "Escape".
Avoid the Airsense 10 that is labeled "cpap"
Otherwise, enjoy your new machine.
Avoid the Airsense 10 that is labeled "cpap"
Otherwise, enjoy your new machine.
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Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
Echoing what others have said, here's a reasonably up-to-date database that tells you if a prospective new machine has data capability... yes, even a few of the newest models are NOT data capable. This links to one database but there are two views – use whichever one is expedient for you:
https://sleep.tnet.com/equipment/cpapmachines
https://sleep.tnet.com/cmd
If you don't like the pink color in Pugsy's example of that cpap machine for sale above, google 'cpap skins' and see what covers or skins you can buy.
https://sleep.tnet.com/equipment/cpapmachines
https://sleep.tnet.com/cmd
If you don't like the pink color in Pugsy's example of that cpap machine for sale above, google 'cpap skins' and see what covers or skins you can buy.
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Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
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Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
Another member on this forum, STLMark, also regularly sells good low mileage used machines.
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Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
What is not stated, but seems to be the case is (1) that you don't have insurance, (2) that you have insurance that does not cover a new CPAP at all, or (3) your insurance will not replace a CPAP that still works. I had the #3 situation several years ago.
If you do get a replacement, please hold on to the old one as a backup machine. Use it every so often to make sure the seals don't dry out. If you have to be compliant on the new one, just try running the old one for several hours without using it.
My 2009 machine broke a few months ago, and I had to use my 2005 machine until the new one came.
If you do get a replacement, please hold on to the old one as a backup machine. Use it every so often to make sure the seals don't dry out. If you have to be compliant on the new one, just try running the old one for several hours without using it.
My 2009 machine broke a few months ago, and I had to use my 2005 machine until the new one came.
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
I haven't checked with my insurance yet, but not having met my deductible or out-of-pocket max I was thinking the whole situation vis-a-vis insurance was moot. But, I may be wrong -- perhaps I should check in with them to find out if there are any savings opportunities to be had.D.H. wrote:What is not stated, but seems to be the case is (1) that you don't have insurance, (2) that you have insurance that does not cover a new CPAP at all, or (3) your insurance will not replace a CPAP that still works. I had the #3 situation several years ago.
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
That does look like a nice offer but I think I'll pass as (a) I don't need a humidifier, and (b) it clashes with my PJ's. http://www.enjoysilk.com/silk-pajamas-for-men.htmlPugsy wrote: Here's a really good deal on a S9 from cpap.com
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ifier.html
It's kind of an ugly pink (originally released for breast cancer awareness) but with the light's out you can't see the color but if it is just too annoying there are some sports themed skins available to cover it or you can even design your own from skinit.com.
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
Great info and tips everyone! Thanks.
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if your masculinity is threatened by the thought that someone would come in while you're asleep and pass derisive judgment on your fashion sense, you can always put a skin on the s9. pick something that matches your pj's.TRzzz wrote:That does look like a nice offer but I think I'll pass as (a) I don't need a humidifier, and (b) it clashes with my PJ's.Pugsy wrote: Here's a really good deal on a S9 from cpap.com
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ifier.html
It's kind of an ugly pink (originally released for breast cancer awareness) but with the light's out you can't see the color but if it is just too annoying there are some sports themed skins available to cover it or you can even design your own from skinit.com.
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
You could always get a skinit cover the pink exterior. $20-$30 bucksTRzzz wrote:That does look like a nice offer but I think I'll pass as (a) I don't need a humidifier, and (b) it clashes with my PJ's. http://www.enjoysilk.com/silk-pajamas-for-men.htmlPugsy wrote: Here's a really good deal on a S9 from cpap.com
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ifier.html
It's kind of an ugly pink (originally released for breast cancer awareness) but with the light's out you can't see the color but if it is just too annoying there are some sports themed skins available to cover it or you can even design your own from skinit.com.
Re: Pros/cons of getting a new machine
I agree that it's time for a new machines. Moving mechanical parts will fail eventually. You missed a great sale our sponsor, cpap.com, about a month or so ago - brand new S9 with warranty for about $350. They were clearing out stock to make room for the new Dreamstation.
But do check with your insurance. Figure out exactly what you will have to pay out-of-pocket. There are also some experienced posters here that resell used machines that they have picked up at places like craigslist, which takes a lot of time and trouble for them to do.
You will find that the newer machines are better in every way. The work better, they sound better, they are smaller, they make less noise, they collect more data - you will be impressed! An S6 was my first machine and we've sure come a long way since then.
But do check with your insurance. Figure out exactly what you will have to pay out-of-pocket. There are also some experienced posters here that resell used machines that they have picked up at places like craigslist, which takes a lot of time and trouble for them to do.
You will find that the newer machines are better in every way. The work better, they sound better, they are smaller, they make less noise, they collect more data - you will be impressed! An S6 was my first machine and we've sure come a long way since then.
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