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Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by So Well » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:08 pm

Drafter of U.S. Dietary Goals Was Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat

Newly released historical documents show the Sugar Research Foundation paid scientists to blame fat and cholesterol, not sugar, for coronary heart disease.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/13/sugar
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Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:20 pm

This is basically how the Food Pyramid came to be.
The Department of Agriculture had/has a huge interest in promoting the sale and consumption of grain.
They used their considerable influence to override scientific data supporting good nutrition
in favor of frankenfoods like wheat, corn, and other delights from the labs at Monsanto.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by Goofproof » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:25 pm

For truth in all things, follow the money. Money and Greed rules our World. Ask the questions, who gains the $$$ from their view. And $$$ buys influence to promote lies. Jim
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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by DeepFriedDuck » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:22 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: frankenfoods like wheat, corn, and other delights from the labs at Monsanto.
You might want to learn a little bit about plant development, farming and food production in general.

The use of any of the terms "frankenfood", "GMO wheat" and Monsanto is a clear indication you get your information from sources that eschew science.

I am sure you don't search out doctors to treat you like it was the 1800s.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

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DeepFriedDuck wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote: frankenfoods like wheat, corn, and other delights from the labs at Monsanto.
You might want to learn a little bit about plant development, farming and food production in general.

The use of any of the terms "frankenfood", "GMO wheat" and Monsanto is a clear indication you get your information from sources that eschew science.

I am sure you don't search out doctors to treat you like it was the 1800s.
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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by Gasper62 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:44 pm

Monsanto >>> Roundup >>> Probable Carcinogen. Science has provided us with many, many detrimental developments right alongside the beneficial ones. Wake TF up. Thalidomide, anyone ? DDT ? Etc., etc., etc.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by So Well » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:08 pm

Gasper62 wrote:Monsanto >>> Roundup >>> Probable Carcinogen
Are you keeping up? A co-analysis by the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) and World Health Organisation found that the chemical was “unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans from exposure through the diet”. This report was released in May of this year. The one you are referring to is over a year old. The one you are referring to has been severely criticized and rejected by many scientific organisations.
Gasper62 wrote:Thalidomide, anyone ? DDT ?
Are your fears so irrational that you have to go back, respectively, 55 and 44 years to find reasons to be afraid? Thalidomide was banned in 1961 and DDT in 1972. In those days, no one was running tests for teratogenic effects. Today, these tests are required, and the problem would be caught in advance.

But, stay fearful, if that's what you prefer.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by Gasper62 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:14 pm

So Well wrote:
Gasper62 wrote:Monsanto >>> Roundup >>> Probable Carcinogen
Are you keeping up? A co-analysis by the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) and World Health Organisation found that the chemical was “unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans from exposure through the diet”. This report was released in May of this year. The one you are referring to is over a year old. The one you are referring to has been severely criticized and rejected by many scientific organisations.
Gasper62 wrote:Thalidomide, anyone ? DDT ?
Are your fears so irrational that you have to go back, respectively, 55 and 44 years to find reasons to be afraid? Thalidomide was banned in 1961 and DDT in 1972. In those days, no one was running tests for teratogenic effects. Today, these tests are required, and the problem would be caught in advance.

But, stay fearful, if that's what you prefer.
Or..you might find reasons to remain oblivious if you prefer. LOTS of things are belched out and approved prematurely at an alarming rate in my opinion. "What's past....is prologue" You take your path, I'll take mine, mmmmmkay ?

Are you keepin' up ?
"WHO Scientist Reaffirms Glyphosate's Cancer Link

In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) of the World Health Organization (WHO) concluded that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Monsanto's Roundup herbicide, is "probably carcinogenic."

In May 2016, the United Nation's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) issued a joint report with WHO stating glyphosate is unlikely to pose a risk of cancer to humans from exposure through the diet. The report raised eyebrows since the two WHO regulatory bodies released seemingly contradictory results.

In response, Dr. Kurt Straif, a section head with IARC, stood behind IARC's assessment that glyphosate may cause cancer, noting in an interview with Euronews:


"Our evaluation was a review of all the published scientific literature on glyphosate and this was done by the world's best experts on the topic that in addition don't have any conflicts of interest that could bias their assessment.


They concluded that, yes, glyphosate is probably carcinogenic to humans based on three strings of evidence, that is clear evidence of cancer in experimental animals, limited evidence for cancer for humans from real-world exposures, of exposed farmers, and also strong evidence that it can damage the genes from any kind of other toxicological studies."

Notably, there have been reports that the FAO/WHO scientists were paid off by Monsanto to produce a favorable review. When Dr. Straif was asked about such allegations, he noted, "It is an important topic that needs important scrutiny, yes."

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by Gasper62 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:37 pm

"Are your fears so irrational that you have to go back, respectively, 55 and 44 years to find reasons to be afraid? " Um, the article you yourself posted... cites skullduggery dating from.....wait for it........ 49 frickin' years ago (1967). That's 5 years farther back than 44 (by my calculations).


"The link between a high-sugar diet and the development of metabolic problems had begun emerging in the 1950s. In 1965, a group called the Sugar Research Foundation (SRF) funded a study assessing previous studies on this possibility. That literature review, published in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine in 1967, concluded that fat and cholesterol were the real culprits when it came to coronary heart disease."


Did you even read the article ? Did you skip reading the last paragraph ? "Funding good nutrition research is expensive, and we shouldn't automatically look at industry-funded studies or researchers who accept food-industry funding as suspect. But let's not pretend like this sugar scandal is simply a relic of the bad old days of non-disclosure and undue influence. There continues to be every bit as much reason to look skeptically at government dietary advice today as there was in the 20th Century." Try the Soylent Green, you might like it.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by DeepFriedDuck » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:43 pm

Gasper62 wrote:there have been reports that the FAO/WHO scientists were paid off by Monsanto to produce a favorable review.
Of course, there have been many such reports. Big Organic has dozens of FB pages, blogs and websites that make up this crap.

But, you wouldn't understand how you are being duped. You are up against a 50-billion-dollar organic food industry that is scamming you. Enjoy.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by So Well » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:46 pm

DeepFriedDuck wrote:You are up against a 50-billion-dollar organic food industry that is scamming you. Enjoy.
Good point. Big Organic is doing today what Big Sugar did in the past.

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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by Gasper62 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:52 pm

DeepFriedDuck wrote:
Gasper62 wrote:there have been reports that the FAO/WHO scientists were paid off by Monsanto to produce a favorable review.
Of course, there have been many such reports. Big Organic has dozens of FB pages, blogs and websites that make up this crap.

But, you wouldn't understand how you are being duped. You are up against a 50-billion-dollar organic food industry that is scamming you. Enjoy.
Gullible, much too gullible are you. The organics lobby ain't exactly angels, but, they're much less devious than Bayer-Monsanto-et al by a l*o*n*g shot. (IMO) Hey ! I personally don't care if you slam shots of Roundup straight up....I'll pass

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Post by Lucyhere » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:53 pm

So Well wrote:
DeepFriedDuck wrote:You are up against a 50-billion-dollar organic food industry that is scamming you. Enjoy.
Good point. Big Organic is doing today what Big Sugar did in the past.


And Gluten... no different.
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Re: Bribed by Big Sugar to Demonize Fat in the Diet

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:56 pm

Organic or laboratory, today's type 2 diabetics were raised under the pyramid, with its
unreasonable and unhealthy emphasis on carbohydrates.
The corn and wheat lobbies have had Washington in its pocket for decades.
The potato lobby is not far behind.
Hamburger helper is helping way too many into wheelchairs.

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Post by Goofproof » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:08 pm

How about 6 glasses of Agent Orange, water a day, should have drank beer. Fifty plus years and paying daily. Good thing, we never had to mow grass. Jim
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