FFM advice wanted - update with dreamwear flap question
FFM advice wanted - update with dreamwear flap question
Hi
I just made this long thoughtful post with all sorts of helpful background information that was unceremoniously deleted. Don't you hate when that happens? Instead of trying to write out a whole other long post, I thought I'd just cut to the chase a bit more and hope any of you have some insight for me.
I want to try a FFM (explanation was deleted). Some things I think I really care about are no forehead strap, as quiet as possible, and being able to sleep on both my back and my sides. I've been looking at the Airfit F20, AirTouch F20, Dreamwear FFM, some other hybrid masks, etc. I'm overwhelmed with choices. Is there a reason I should consider one over others? Is there one that's known for being quieter? One that just simply won't work if you sleep on your side? Any reason I should or should not get the "for her" version of any FFM? I currently wear a small nasal pillow but don't know if that translates into needing a small FFM mask and don't know if a small regular or small "for her" is substantially different.
Any thoughts on why I should try one mask over another would be great. I realize people's opinions on this are extremely subjective but I'm suffering from paradox of choice to an insane degree right now and would love to have a reason to pull the trigger on one in particular.
Thank you!
I just made this long thoughtful post with all sorts of helpful background information that was unceremoniously deleted. Don't you hate when that happens? Instead of trying to write out a whole other long post, I thought I'd just cut to the chase a bit more and hope any of you have some insight for me.
I want to try a FFM (explanation was deleted). Some things I think I really care about are no forehead strap, as quiet as possible, and being able to sleep on both my back and my sides. I've been looking at the Airfit F20, AirTouch F20, Dreamwear FFM, some other hybrid masks, etc. I'm overwhelmed with choices. Is there a reason I should consider one over others? Is there one that's known for being quieter? One that just simply won't work if you sleep on your side? Any reason I should or should not get the "for her" version of any FFM? I currently wear a small nasal pillow but don't know if that translates into needing a small FFM mask and don't know if a small regular or small "for her" is substantially different.
Any thoughts on why I should try one mask over another would be great. I realize people's opinions on this are extremely subjective but I'm suffering from paradox of choice to an insane degree right now and would love to have a reason to pull the trigger on one in particular.
Thank you!
Last edited by Berks on Mon May 07, 2018 8:13 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: FFM advice wanted
The new dreamwear full face allows you to sleep in varying positions. With the F&P Simplus and other masks like it, I find you are rather restricted on sleep positions.
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Re: FFM advice wanted
Go to Cpappillow.com for a different option allowing you to sleep on your side with a FF mask.
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Re: FFM advice wanted
Thanks! I'm really intrigued by the Dreamwear FFM. I really like my nasal pillows and like the idea of having my nose free...raisedfist wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:27 pmThe new dreamwear full face allows you to sleep in varying positions. With the F&P Simplus and other masks like it, I find you are rather restricted on sleep positions.
So the air doesn't get pinched off when you turn on your side? I would have thought it would with the air coming through the face straps.
Also with the air coming through on your face - is it noisy?
Re: FFM advice wanted
Julie, Your link is no good. Domain is for sale....
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Re: FFM advice wanted
I would recommend the AirFIt F20 over the AirTouch F20 because the AIrFit is easier to clean and I didn't see much of an improvement in seal with the AirTouch. They use the same headgear. Nothing on the forehead. No problems with side sleeping with me.
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Re: FFM advice wanted
I get plenty of air side-sleeping with the DreamWear FFM, but my pressure is set at 7 to 11.Berks wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:43 pmThanks! I'm really intrigued by the Dreamwear FFM. I really like my nasal pillows and like the idea of having my nose free...raisedfist wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:27 pmThe new dreamwear full face allows you to sleep in varying positions. With the F&P Simplus and other masks like it, I find you are rather restricted on sleep positions.
So the air doesn't get pinched off when you turn on your side? I would have thought it would with the air coming through the face straps.
Also with the air coming through on your face - is it noisy?
A few people have mentioned that the DreamWear FFM might not work well for high-pressure users.
The air coming through the frame is like white noise for me. It's noticeable but not too noisy.
My wife (who does not use CPAP) says that my DreamWear full face mask is very quiet, and she is a pretty light sleeper.
I've been using the DreamWear FFM for six weeks now with no major issues.
After two years of struggling with CPAP mostly alone in a separate room, my wife and I are finally at a point where sharing a bed is becoming the norm.
That may seem like a little thing in light of the health benefits of CPAP, but for me that's the main reason I'm here.
It's a bit surreal that I can finally just enjoy sleep and move on to the next chapter of life.
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Re: FFM advice wanted
You have already received 3 different recomondations...it's impossible for anyone to give you a realistic recomondation because everyone's face and circumstances are different. Go to cpap.com...click on FF masks and read the hundreds of comments on each mask.Berks wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:02 pmHi
I just made this long thoughtful post with all sorts of helpful background information that was unceremoniously deleted. Don't you hate when that happens? Instead of trying to write out a whole other long post, I thought I'd just cut to the chase a bit more and hope any of you have some insight for me.
I want to try a FFM (explanation was deleted). Some things I think I really care about are no forehead strap, as quiet as possible, and being able to sleep on both my back and my sides. I've been looking at the Airfit F20, AirTouch F20, Dreamwear FFM, some other hybrid masks, etc. I'm overwhelmed with choices. Is there a reason I should consider one over others? Is there one that's known for being quieter? One that just simply won't work if you sleep on your side? Any reason I should or should not get the "for her" version of any FFM? I currently wear a small nasal pillow but don't know if that translates into needing a small FFM mask and don't know if a small regular or small "for her" is substantially different.
Any thoughts on why I should try one mask over another would be great. I realize people's opinions on this are extremely subjective but I'm suffering from paradox of choice to an insane degree right now and would love to have a reason to pull the trigger on one in particular.
Thank you!
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Re: FFM advice wanted
So I got the dreamwear ffm to try out tonight bit specifically says not to block the big holes in the front of the mask but when I exhale the flap close it off... Is that unsafe? It seems like the carbon dioxide is supposed to go out those holes but doesn't when the flap closes...
Thoughts? Help?
Thoughts? Help?
Re: FFM advice wanted
You're probably hearing the anti-asphyxiation valves closing. When your machine first turns on, they close. If you should have a power failure while sleeping, pressure is lost, and the valves open, allowing you to continue breathing.Berks wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:39 pmSo I got the dreamwear ffm to try out tonight bit specifically says not to block the big holes in the front of the mask but when I exhale the flap close it off... Is that unsafe? It seems like the carbon dioxide is supposed to go out those holes but doesn't when the flap closes...
Thoughts? Help?
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Re: FFM advice wanted
Those big holes are only for taking air in when you aren't hooked up to the machine or if your power goes off.Berks wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 7:39 pmSo I got the dreamwear ffm to try out tonight bit specifically says not to block the big holes in the front of the mask but when I exhale the flap close it off... Is that unsafe? It seems like the carbon dioxide is supposed to go out those holes but doesn't when the flap closes...
Thoughts? Help?
The carbon dioxide is expelled through the little holes on the front of the mask and through the vent at the top-of-the-head connection.
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Re: FFM advice wanted - update with dreamwear flap question
fwiw, I just wrote on another post that it took me about 4 months to get used to cpap and i believe the new mask i changed to had a lot to do with it. It is a Dreamware ffm. But i know it all depends on face shape, etc., also.
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Re: FFM advice wanted
weroberts75 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 8:17 amThose big holes are only for taking air in when you aren't hooked up to the machine or if your power goes off.
The carbon dioxide is expelled through the little holes on the front of the mask and through the vent at the top-of-the-head connection.
Makes sense. Thank you! I appreciate both of your responses!!
Thanks! I'm going to try it tonight for the first time!