did dme give wrong machine??

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did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jomac30 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:05 pm

I told a friend who is new to cpap to request the Respironics M series Auto with Aflex. The Dme gave him Respironics Remstar Plus with Cflex which he said was the same auto machine. Isn't there a difference??
Is the Plus data capable?
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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by Limestone » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:09 pm

NO!! The Plus is not data capable.You need to get up to at least the Pro for meaningful data ,the plus only reports compliance.If this is truly what your friend was told at the DME,they were lied to.

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jomac30 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:16 pm

Is the Remstar Plus with Cflex an Apap or a CPAP??? I don't think he go an APAP
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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jules » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:32 pm

cpap -

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by dsm » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:41 pm

This is what a Remstar Auto with CFlex looks like

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http://www.internetage.ws/cpapinfo/rems ... o-cflex-1/
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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jules » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:50 pm

Those are for the legacy series - or tank - the plus tank will look the same - I believe jomac has a tank herself

There is an m series APAP with cflex, as well as a m series APAP with aflex - the plus m series will also look like them

It is the label on the top of the machine that will distinguish which model

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jomac30 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:58 pm

It says Remstar Plus, but my question is--can this machine be an autopap?
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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jules » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:00 pm

No - it is a straight cpap if it says PLUS - unless of course it is the bipap plus -

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by ozij » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:12 pm

The Plus machines - whether fixed or bi-level are not self adjusting. The do not adust the pressure supplied in response to breathing obstructions. A Plus bi-level will supply different pressures for inhale and exhale. However, should your friend need higher pressure when s/he dreams, or sleeps on his/her back, the machine will not supply that.
The Plus machines will not record breathing data either. Only number of hours used.

The DME gets paid the same from the insurance for a Plus and for an Auto, but they are not equivalent machines.
http://sleepapnea.respironics.com/sleepsystems/


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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by Wulfman » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:31 pm

In short.....your friend got lied to and ripped off.
And, unless he goes back and demands at least an "M Series Pro" machine, he won't know how his therapy is working.

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by rested gal » Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:25 pm

My list of machines that record "full data" and those that don't -- as of October 2008.
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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by LSAT » Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:32 pm

I originally got the Remstar..it is a very nice unit...BUT, it is very loud. Neither I nor my wife could get to sleep, even with the ramp. I exchanged it for the Fischer & Paykel which is VERY quiet. I'm a happy camper.

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by fortomorrow » Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:22 pm

LSAT wrote:I originally got the Remstar..it is a very nice unit...BUT, it is very loud. Neither I nor my wife could get to sleep, even with the ramp. I exchanged it for the Fischer & Paykel which is VERY quiet. I'm a happy camper.
Your machine doesn't have exhale pressure relief, which is important to some folks, myself included.

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by pratzert » Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:30 pm

Which DME was it ? Apria ?

I had a prescription for an AUTO machine and Apria assured me that they would fill the prescription as written.

They shipped me a straight CPAP machine, not an Auto.

It took me over a year to get it straight. They jerked me around hoping I would give up... but I didn't.

I ended up buying my own machine and getting partial reimbursement from my Insurance company.

But if you read the forum... you'll learn that this is a great ploy of the DME's. Promise you anything, but give you what they want to give you regardless of your prescription... wants... or needs.

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Re: did dme give wrong machine??

Post by jomac30 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:25 pm

The dme is Praxair. I never heard of them before. Are they only in Massachusetts?
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