Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by jedimark » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:04 pm

coconut wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
The info in my properties.txt file is:
Thanks Coconut.
Hmmm... If it was working previously, there's a possibility you've got some kind of block corruption on your SD card... might be time for an integrity scan/check or even a freshly formatted new SD card :-/

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by jedimark » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:16 pm

palerider wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 pm
coconut wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
JediMark -

Many thanks for your reply! I think sleepyhead is amazingly cool, even if I haven't used it much - 'way cooler than EncorePro - and the investment of time to make it work had to be huge. I'm surprised by the acrimony between posters here, seems to be some history...
There has been a lot of work on sleepyhead, many hundreds of hours on my part alone, along with many other people, some listed on the sleepyhead credits page.

All of it discounted by Mark when he gets into his recurring paranoid delusional state where he thinks, wrongly, that everyone is out to get him, and he starts spewing lies.

He spins a compelling tale, and unfortunately it suckers in people that don't know better.
Palerider, quit it... if you keep doing this, you will find a lawyer on your doorstep.

I *never* put down your support or anyone else's... You've been twisting my words.

I had to boot you from my inner circle for both my own sanity and the good of the project because you were being hideously rude, pushy, overly-entitled and demanding, and constantly trying to control how I prioritised my time working on my own software project, and it was leading to incredibly bad and rushed decisions being made in the codebase because I was trying to be your goddamn friend and accommodating.

I'm telling the truth, anyone with half a brain can go to ApeneaBoard and see the evidence that what I'm saying is true. I did not speak out without a long history dealing with this shitty behaviour of theirs building up.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:26 pm

jedimark wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:04 pm
coconut wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
The info in my properties.txt file is:
Thanks Coconut.
Hmmm... If it was working previously, there's a possibility you've got some kind of block corruption on your SD card... might be time for an integrity scan/check or even a freshly formatted new SD card :-/
Mark...he already tried a brand new card...back on page 1...no joy.
Aaaaand.....

here's the results of popping in a virgin 2gb SD card.

The data now only goes back to Nov, and it's seemingly almost entirely fragmented into segments of length 1hr 14min 57seconds. Check out the attached image.

So it isn't the SD card, it's something the sleepyhead program is doing with the data on the SD card.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by BrianinTN » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:30 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:26 pm
Mark...he already tried a brand new card...back on page 1...no joy.
Yup. Plus there’s me having the same issue with the same machine. Coincidences happen, but the odds are against that being the explanation in this case.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:34 pm

To Mark and Palerider.....

Can we stay on topic here and refrain from the personal crap? It's not helping anyone in this thread.

I know you two have your personal differences but if you must go public with the sparring....how about some place else (like your own OT thread) and not derail helping threads. You both know how I feel about derailing helping threads with personal crap that isn't helpful to the person who actually asked for help.

Thank you both in advance for helping me out in this regard.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by coconut » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:45 pm

Jedimark -

As other posters have noted, I tried a fresh card. Same problem, but interestingly with the fresh card the size of the fragments changed, though remaining consistent in the data.

It seemed unlikely that there was data corruption since Encore Pro worked fine on the same card, but I tried to absolutely rule out an issue relating to a specific card, which has been done. Likewise, data corruption on the cpap would probably screw up EncorePro results, I'd think.

As noted earlier in the string, I also installed the newer beta of Sleepyhead on an entirely different Mac and got identical results. I have not tried it on a windows version, but the statistical odds are the other poster who is reporting this is using a windows version.

I can't even imagine "what has changed" between 2.5 months ago and now which would alter Sleepyhead functionality so fundamentally, even in concept, and be consistently reproducible on multiple machines, media, and installs. I've halfway mused about installing it on a computer whose system clock is set for last year.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by palerider » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:10 pm

jedimark wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:16 pm
palerider wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 pm
coconut wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 pm
JediMark -

Many thanks for your reply! I think sleepyhead is amazingly cool, even if I haven't used it much - 'way cooler than EncorePro - and the investment of time to make it work had to be huge. I'm surprised by the acrimony between posters here, seems to be some history...
There has been a lot of work on sleepyhead, many hundreds of hours on my part alone, along with many other people, some listed on the sleepyhead credits page.

All of it discounted by Mark when he gets into his recurring paranoid delusional state where he thinks, wrongly, that everyone is out to get him, and he starts spewing lies.

He spins a compelling tale, and unfortunately it suckers in people that don't know better.
Palerider, quit it... if you keep doing this, you will find a lawyer on your doorstep.
I haven't written anything that's not true.

You, however, have libeled many people.
jedimark wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:16 pm


I had to boot you from my inner circle for both my own sanity and the good of the project because you were being hideously rude, pushy, overly-entitled and demanding, and constantly trying to control how I prioritised my time working on my own software project, and it was leading to incredibly bad and rushed decisions being made in the codebase because I was trying to be your goddamn friend and accommodating.
Yup, I urged you to talk to pugsy about the many things that confused, and continue to needlessly confuse new users... Hideous!
jedimark wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:16 pm
I'm telling the truth, anyone with half a brain can go to ApeneaBoard and see the evidence that what I'm saying is true. I did not speak out without a long history dealing with this shitty behaviour of theirs building up.
I'd be surprised if you don't end up on the pointy end of a lawsuit yourself, for your continuing libel of them. Fortunately that has nothing to do with me.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by jedimark » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:20 pm

Was any settings/modes changed on this machine in the clinical menu prior to the errors happening... like things that might change the average size and structure of the (non-combined) .001 files (which contain session length information)?

1.1.0 had a better parser for .001 files than 1.0.0, but I didn't really fix it properly until afterwards.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by coconut » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:08 pm

Hi JediMark -

No mode or setting changes to the machine settings I'm aware of... and if there had been it would only have been minor adjustment of the pressure support.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by jedimark » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:28 pm

coconut wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:08 pm
No mode or setting changes to the machine settings I'm aware of... and if there had been it would only have been minor adjustment of the pressure support.
Is there any difference between earlier .001 file sizes and the newest ones??

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by BrianinTN » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:58 pm

jedimark wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:28 pm
coconut wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:08 pm
No mode or setting changes to the machine settings I'm aware of... and if there had been it would only have been minor adjustment of the pressure support.
Is there any difference between earlier .001 file sizes and the newest ones??
In my case, not really. Comparing the newest to the oldest:
MAC:p4 user$ ls -l *.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 17 15:15 0000000855.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 18 08:16 0000000856.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 18 08:25 0000000857.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 18 15:48 0000000858.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 21 Feb 18 18:54 0000000859.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 21 Feb 18 18:54 0000000860.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 19 14:23 0000000861.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 42 Feb 20 00:36 0000000862.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 20 08:28 0000000864.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Feb 20 13:52 0000000865.001


MAC:p0 user$ ls -l *.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 0 Mar 24 2014 0000000001.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 28 2014 0000000007.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 28 2014 0000000008.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 42 Jul 28 2014 0000000009.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 28 2014 0000000011.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 28 2014 0000000012.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 23 Jul 28 2014 0000000013.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 23 Jul 29 2014 0000000014.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 29 2014 0000000015.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 29 2014 0000000016.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 29 2014 0000000017.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 23 Jul 29 2014 0000000018.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 30 2014 0000000019.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 23 Jul 30 2014 0000000020.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 30 2014 0000000021.001
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user staff 85 Jul 30 2014 0000000022.001

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by coconut » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:28 pm

JediMark -

Is there any difference between earlier .001 file sizes and the newest ones??

If I understand what you're asking, the answer seems to be no. The old data and the new, all the .001 files are 85 bytes as reported by my mac's OS.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by coconut » Wed May 08, 2019 7:50 pm

Hi, just returning here to post that I never did get it working right, so haven't been able to use Sleepyhead. I'd REALLY like to, since it's greatly superior to EncorePro. But it mashes up the data coming out of my autoSV, says I was on the machine only a little over an hour last night, when it was more like 7.

I understand that as few people use the autoSV machines, there will be no big impetus to fix a bug which only affects that machine, but I hope....

all best, and particularly to JediMark for his great work in creating it in the first place.

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Re: Sleepyhead seems to not be showing my actual sleep time

Post by Dog Slobber » Wed May 08, 2019 7:57 pm

coconut wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 7:50 pm
Hi, just returning here to post that I never did get it working right, so haven't been able to use Sleepyhead. I'd REALLY like to, since it's greatly superior to EncorePro. But it mashes up the data coming out of my autoSV, says I was on the machine only a little over an hour last night, when it was more like 7.

I understand that as few people use the autoSV machines, there will be no big impetus to fix a bug which only affects that machine, but I hope....

all best, and particularly to JediMark for his great work in creating it in the first place.

Hi coconut,

The SleepyHead project has been shutdown, therefore there will be no more fixes or enhancements.

Fortunately, it has been forked. The new program is called OSCAR and you can get it here:
https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/

The initial release is basically the same as SleepyHead 1.1.0.

I suggest you try it, then report bugs to the OSCAR team in the pinned topic.