OT: Repeating Pattern of Bullying & Locked Threads

[Goofproof]

As long as we declare Bullying (Anything said about anything), I suggest we use the term in it's correct context, subversion, threat of bodily harm, maiming, or killing . I find this very hard to do on the internet. Lets see some real blood, real Bullying, not just people playing on a forum, that shouldn't be playing outside in the first place. If Real Life is such a problem your feelings get hurt over a few words said by someone you will never know, it seems you need to use some of what they gave us in the Army to stop blisters, Tough Skin! But as I found out, after the blisters form it does little good, it's best used before you Blister. I wish I had had some before being dumped in Basic Training. Could have used some on my nose before XPAP Too! Jim

[Stom]

As long as we declare Bullying (Anything said about anything), I suggest we use the term in it's correct context, subversion, threat of bodily harm, maiming, or killing .

Yeah, no. That can qualify as bullying but it's not the "correct" definition of bullying. Bullying is not limited to assault and battery or threats of physical violence.

bully1 | ˈbo͝olē |
noun (plural bullies)
a person who uses strength or power to harm or intimidate those who are weaker.
verb (bullies, bullying, bullied) [with object]
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants: a local man was bullied into helping them.

The person at issue here has the tacit support of the admin and the explicit support of his posse. He gets high fives from his posse when he bullies new posters and others he considers beneath him. His bad behavior from his relative position of power here easily fits an actual definition of bullying.

[babydinosnoreless]

The only power around here is the respect earned through helping others. Tell me, what have you or the others complaining about power done to earn that posse that you are so jealous of? Bullies gain power through intimidation not respect if you can't see that difference I feel sorry for you.

[Jas_williams]

so i'm uncertain how bringing up how palerider is nicer on the other board than here has any real relevance. it's been stated that the two forums are different.

could you explain?

It's stated right in my post. It was a response to Midwest_non_sleeper's claim that "We cannot change who or what other people are" and thus can't change a bully's behavior. That is false. There is no need to change who or what the poster "is", it is only necessary to prohibit their problematic behavior here in the forum. The fact that the bully can behave better in the other forum is proof that the bully's behavior is voluntary and that modding can do here what it does there.

Folks can say "Hey, this is a loosely modded forum, so no!" and since it is a loosely modded forum I can say "You should! Bullying should be unacceptable everywhere, even by 'important' people."

PR does not regularly post on AB unless we are talking about certain specialist forums on the board, he prefers it here we all have preferences to which bars we like to go too

[Jas_williams]

may i suggest contacting the goodman's directly and giving them your complaints?

because, it is my humble opinion that "merely" complaining about it here in the forum isn't going to lead to the change you want.

Could be, but changing the public sentiment can also have an effect. Not claiming I'm successful in doing that. It's very much an uphill battle in this forum.

Why should the vocal minority change things for the majority ?


If you don’t like it here vote with your feet and go somewhere else don’t winge about it

[flightco]

I haven't logged in for a while, good to see that things haven't changed ( new users feel the need to tell the owners and moderators how they need to handle the forum). As for me, as long as everyone I disagree with is locked, I am good.

[zoocrewphoto]

Stom,

Thanks for your thoughts! It's nice to hear from you as you are indeed "one of the ladies" who gets abused daily by the ringleader! - - And you'd think one of the other ladies who are members of CPAPTalk would come to your defense, but they of course don't want to "rock their little boat"! -

One, I think it is wrong to defend somebody just because they are the same gender as me. I am not obligated to go defend all women just because they are women.

Two, it doesn't say on her posts that she is a woman, so unless it is mentioned, how would we know?

Three. she often gives advice I disagree with. While it looks rude to call out people in a sig line, there are some people whose advice new people should be wary of. While I prefer to simply disagree and correct information when I can, I do understand why somebody would put it in the sig file. I believe that started with alphabet boy, and I don't remember anybody arguing with that method then.

[zoocrewphoto]

OH! so you are merely complaining and not urging any particular action, then?

There is no "merely" about it. I think the forum owner should change the board policy and prohibit bullying. Bullying should not be encouraged or condoned, nor does it look good for cpap.com to be associated with it.

Bringing public attention to topics like this may or may not lead to change. But saying nothing certainly only helps the status quo of condoning bullying and protecting "important" people in the forum from any consequences for bad behavior.

It has been clear for YEARS what the rules are here. If it bothers you that much, you know you can go to the other forums. This one may not be for you. We have more freedom here, and we don't want it to be like that one.

[zoocrewphoto]

may i suggest contacting the goodman's directly and giving them your complaints?

because, it is my humble opinion that "merely" complaining about it here in the forum isn't going to lead to the change you want.

Could be, but changing the public sentiment can also have an effect. Not claiming I'm successful in doing that. It's very much an uphill battle in this forum.

It's having the opposite effect on *me*.

Its making me ever more thankful for free speech.
There is no reason our words and thoughts should be moderated or monitored online or in writing.

We should be forever grateful when we can disagree using WORDS and not resort to physical dominance and violence.

Thank God for Johnny and CPAPtalk!

A little bit of freedom in the moderated cesspool that seems to be everywhere online lately.

Totally agree! I am glad we have the freedom to be adults here and discuss things without getting our fingers slapped. Back when I kpoined this forum, I also joined an email list. I was kept on moderated status because I suggested that it was okay to change our own settings. I had to respond privately to people in an effort to help them because the moderator didn't want people to be in charge of their own care. And that group died out. It was useless. This forum is awesome because we have that freedom. Those who do not like it have choices that they can go to. We don't have to destroy this one just to keep people from being offended.

[zoocrewphoto]

As long as we declare Bullying (Anything said about anything), I suggest we use the term in it's correct context, subversion, threat of bodily harm, maiming, or killing .

Yeah, no. That can qualify as bullying but it's not the "correct" definition of bullying. Bullying is not limited to assault and battery or threats of physical violence.

bully1 | ˈbo͝olē |
noun (plural bullies)
a person who uses strength or power to harm or intimidate those who are weaker.
verb (bullies, bullying, bullied) [with object]
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants: a local man was bullied into helping them.

The person at issue here has the tacit support of the admin and the explicit support of his posse. He gets high fives from his posse when he bullies new posters and others he considers beneath him. His bad behavior from his relative position of power here easily fits an actual definition of bullying.

How do you HARM or INTIMDATE somebody when you have no idea who they are? We aren't dealing in real names here. Are you saying that somebody you don't know who you will never meet is actually able to scare you? For real? That seems crazy. So, somebody is rude to you. How does that harm or intimidate you?

[djont57]

The ONLY thing I dislike about cpaptalk is this thread!

[LSAT]

The ONLY thing I dislike about cpaptalk is this thread!

Stop reading it!......OT Means OFF TOPIC

[Dog Slobber]

Yes Stom, you are 100% right!!! The Ringleader posts over on FreeCPAPAdvice.com under the name Diamaunt (same "devil" avatar - btw, fits him very well!!!) and coincidentally Pugsy moderates over there too.

Would you mind supporting your claim that Pugsy moderates at FreeCPAPAdvice?

[Goofproof]

As long as we declare Bullying (Anything said about anything), I suggest we use the term in it's correct context, subversion, threat of bodily harm, maiming, or killing .

Yeah, no. That can qualify as bullying but it's not the "correct" definition of bullying. Bullying is not limited to assault and battery or threats of physical violence.

bully1 | ˈbo͝olē |
noun (plural bullies)
a person who uses strength or power to harm or intimidate those who are weaker.
verb (bullies, bullying, bullied) [with object]
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants: a local man was bullied into helping them.

The person at issue here has the tacit support of the admin and the explicit support of his posse. He gets high fives from his posse when he bullies new posters and others he considers beneath him. His bad behavior from his relative position of power here easily fits an actual definition of bullying.

Sorry I don't do liberal, I don't buy a new dictionary weekly as I don't care for it or PC, just what I've grew up with and learned, Bully has become the Liberal Buss word for anything, my Bullies bring Pain and Blood, not Feelings Bruised. Jim

A Bully would have to cut my phone cable to kill my internet, as far as dealing with a Bully, it wouldn't be with words on a forum, it would be personal, and it wouldn't turn out well for one of us, and I have less to lose every day. BTW: I have No-One on my Foe list, I don't have Foes, I have people I don't like.

I wish I could Ignore what a few say, but it's not in my nature, but I'm too old to change my ways. Maybe in the Next Life, but not expecting to grow any flowers in my hair soon.

[Stom]

Sorry I don't do liberal, I don't buy a new dictionary weekly as I don't care for it or PC

Right, because defining words accurately is too PC