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I would dive through the x-ray machine to get my CPAP.BlackSpinner wrote:Some of the people had their stuff on the belts in the security area and had to leave everything. No wallets, no shoes, nothing!
And there she goes ........ChicagoGranny wrote:I would dive through the x-ray machine to get my CPAP.BlackSpinner wrote:Some of the people had their stuff on the belts in the security area and had to leave everything. No wallets, no shoes, nothing!
The condition of thin bones is called osteoporosis. You need more exercise granny!ChicagoGranny wrote:Are my bones that thin??
Boy...You really did pick the right user name....you bitch about everything.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
Easy to talk like that sitting safely in front of a computer. Would you really have tried to tackle someone shooting directly at you? I doubt it.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
Actually, an unarmed person trained in the martial arts has the advantage over a gun toting shooter if the distance is less than 12 to 19 feet (depending on whether shooter has drawn pistol or not) ... based on police tactical training (according to my cousin, a 25+ year police cadet trainer).49er wrote:Easy to talk like that sitting safely in front of a computer. Would you really have tried to tackle someone shooting directly at you? I doubt it.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
Yea.... but.... never let anyone get that close to you.DreamStalker wrote:Actually, an unarmed person trained in the martial arts has the advantage over a gun toting shooter if the distance is less than 12 to 19 feet (depending on whether shooter has drawn pistol or not) ... based on police tactical training (according to my cousin, a 25+ year police cadet trainer).49er wrote:Easy to talk like that sitting safely in front of a computer. Would you really have tried to tackle someone shooting directly at you? I doubt it.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
You know Grumps... people can talk, but how they respond in the heat of the battle is what counts. I've seen folks run out of their shoes when a shooter is doing his thing and bullets are flying. I have nothing against them. It is what it is....MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
I totally disagree about CCW, however, you're totally welcome to shadow me anywhere and take a bullet for me while you distract the gunman as the rest of us run.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
Yes. That was the point of the cadet training ... to teach them that pulling a gun on somebody in a close quarters combat situation may actually backfire on them (pun intended).Sheriff Buford wrote:Yea.... but.... never let anyone get that close to you.DreamStalker wrote:Actually, an unarmed person trained in the martial arts has the advantage over a gun toting shooter if the distance is less than 12 to 19 feet (depending on whether shooter has drawn pistol or not) ... based on police tactical training (according to my cousin, a 25+ year police cadet trainer).49er wrote:Easy to talk like that sitting safely in front of a computer. Would you really have tried to tackle someone shooting directly at you? I doubt it.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
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49er wrote:Easy to talk like that sitting safely in front of a computer. Would you really have tried to tackle someone shooting directly at you? I doubt it.MrGrumpy wrote:You people sound like a bunch of chickenshits. Man, if I had been there I would have tackled that skinny little punk and took his gun from him and handed it over to the TSA myself. Aint no way some "shooter" is gonna pull a stunt like that with me if I am there.
This is why we need universal concealed carry, if every other person you encounter on the street is carrying legally and has received formal training in dealing with these threats and we get rid of "gun free zones," then this stupid shit would go as far as about the first "pop" sound.
I fully agree with agree with you on the right response to that piece of trash. Here's the problem - most people just can't do it. I conceal carry 100% of the time when I can do so legally (unfortunately in many airports you can carry, but since you're there for a flight you ultimately aren't going to have it with you unless you can check the weapon). I shoot constantly to keep my skills up. I'm damned good at it. Most of my carrying friends do as well. I keep constant situational awareness. I use mental and physical practice in simulated scenarios. It's just part of the drill when carrying. But that's the thing - it's rare. I imagine you've probably already read David Grosmann's article on sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. If you have, just keep it in mind. If you haven't , you should. Most people are in the sheep category. That's not meant to be derogatory - they just don't have the capacity for violence, even when faced with violence. I can't fault them for that. It's not easy to do and I think takes a certain kind of personality and outlook on life to achieve. I agree that societal conditioning plays a role as well. I think that's changing to a certain extent. The current latest recommendations by most law enforcement is to hide in place if you can do so with high security, but to fight vigorously if that safety is compromised (which would be any sort of open situation like an airport). Maybe that will eventually take hold and elicit a bit more active response. Another part of the issue is the general perception of firearms and their effects. Most folks get their entire view of firearms from watching TV and movies. This makes folks think that someone with a firearm is invincible and wielding certain death, which of course is utterly untrue. Most shots don't connect with their targets, and most shots that do are not immediately debilitating. Most are not fatal with prompt treatment. This is true even of highly trained individuals (and not so highly trained, like police ). In a close in confrontation an aggressive, properly executed physical response can shut down the shooter - especially with more than one responder. It's still not easy, and I think something most are just not going to be willing to do unless trained and conditioned to do so. Would I do so? I'm pretty sure I would. My natural inclination when I hear something go bump in the night is to grab my firearm, and quickly move toward the sound. I've done it many times. I'm still not 100% sure I'd act aggressively under direct fire. I certainly hope I do, and I try to mentally prepare myself to do so.MrGrumpy wrote:Yeah I'd charge at them and tackle their ass. If I tackled them and got shot, I'd be famous and probably be rich afterwards from all the media fame.
Did you see that guys pic? He was some skinny looking punk with arms about as big as my wrists.
And I will say this. I'd be DAMNED if I would have just sat there like they reported as this idiot walked along and popped people methodically. If I know Im about getting ready to get popped like that, aint no way I'd just sit there like a lump on a piece of coal. Thats whats wrong with this country. Why in hell would people just sit there and LET SOMEONE pop them execution style? Unless they are SISSIES???? And are petrified with fear. Thats what a lot of people's problems is in this country, lack of balls. Fear, being scared, Patton called them yellow bellied.
Im a former ocean lifeguard and I would be damned if I'd just sit there and take orders from an idiot with a gun. I'd be looking for things to do and if I got popped in the process of "looking for things to do" then so be it. Thats better than getting popped while sitting on your ass taking orders.
Such a pitiful way to lead your life.linuxman wrote:I keep constant situational awareness.