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Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:06 am
by Taheerah
Hi all,

Thanks for the replies. I am a bit confused. Why not? I believe that this is similar to what we have done. We have raised the minimum pressure till the snores decreased.

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:11 am
by Goofproof
Snore stopping isn't a goal, breathing thru the night is. Get and use the software to make treatment decisions. Links below, and at top of front page 1st section. Jim

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:10 pm
by jennmary
I don't snore. Never have. Yet I still managed to stop breathing 102 times an hour at my last sleep study. The goal is not to stop snoring. The goal is to stop apneas. It is also not smart to trade in your cpap for a cervical neck collar because you think it makes you feel like you got a "great" night of sleep.

What pressure was prescribed for your husband and what pressure is he actually using?

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:37 pm
by Taheerah
Dear all,

Thanks so much and this is great to know. I remember posting a while back and the neck collar in conjunction with the CPAP was recommended so we have tried it ever since. So is it not helpful to use the neck collar? It would be great to know as I don't want to affect the treatment in any way.

The pressure 10 was prescribed but we have swapped to the Auto Cpap and the pressure now is 14-20 and my husbands snores were much less. I was not aware that the snores were not important. As for us, we were under the impression that the less snores the better.

I would highly appreciate any insights on this and I am happy to post his reports if this helps.

Seeing a physician in the country we are living in is not really an option, hence we would have to wait to see a specialist for when we next travel to the UK.

I sincerely appreciate all your comments.

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:56 pm
by palerider
Taheerah wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:37 pm
I remember posting a while back and the neck collar in conjunction with the CPAP was recommended so we have tried it ever since. So is it not helpful to use the neck collar? It would be great to know as I don't want to affect the treatment in any way.
Some people find it advantageous. The problem with the dumb 'flowchart' was that it suggested a collar *instead* of cpap.
Taheerah wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:37 pm
The pressure 10 was prescribed but we have swapped to the Auto Cpap and the pressure now is 14-20 and my husbands snores were much less. I was not aware that the snores were not important. As for us, we were under the impression that the less snores the better.
Who told you that snores weren't important? Snores are bad, they increase the effort to breath and reduce the amount of rest and recuperation... aside from keeping everybody else awake. They're also seen as a precursor to apneas, and that's why all auto machines raise pressure in response to snores.

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:32 am
by Taheerah
Thanks so much, that is great to know. I was a bit confused there. So neck collar and Cpap is ok?

In regards of the pressure, does it make sense to keep the pressure at the level that keeps the snores to a minimum?

I couldn't agree more. It is tough for my husband who still hasn't adapted to the devise yet and for me being the most sensitive sleeper in the world. I am still not giving up though. I hope that we will sort it all one day.

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:12 am
by palerider
Taheerah wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:32 am
Thanks so much, that is great to know. I was a bit confused there. So neck collar and Cpap is ok?
If it helps, then yes, it's perfectly fine. Some people use them to help keep their mouths closed, some people use them to help align their airways... possibly other reasons... there's no reason not to, if one wants to.
Taheerah wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:32 am
In regards of the pressure, does it make sense to keep the pressure at the level that keeps the snores to a minimum?
Absolutely. Think about it.. snoring is caused by vibrating of soft tissue, to do that, the airway has to be narrowed enough to make that happen, narrowed airway results in having to work harder to suck in air, more work, less rest.
Taheerah wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:32 am
me being the most sensitive sleeper in the world.
Trust me, you're not. ;)

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:15 am
by Taheerah
Hahaha. Thank you for that. That is very relieving. :D

It is good to know that we are doing the right thing.

As mentioned there are still some snores, especially these nasty vibratory ones. Do you think lowering the minimum or maximum pressure would be any option or is this the only thing we can do and keep it between 14-20 which I believe is maximum pressure.

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:28 am
by palerider
Taheerah wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:15 am
Hahaha. Thank you for that. That is very relieving. :D

It is good to know that we are doing the right thing.

As mentioned there are still some snores, especially these nasty vibratory ones. Do you think lowering the minimum or maximum pressure would be any option or is this the only thing we can do and keep it between 14-20 which I believe is maximum pressure.
lowering pressure will probably result in more snoring, which is why when the machine detects snoring, it raises the pressure.

20 is the max.

Unless there's other issues, I usually recommend leaving the max pressure at the max it'll go to, the machine won't raise pressure any further than it needs to, to alleviate breathing problems.

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:33 am
by Taheerah
Ok that is good to know.

Thank you for that.

I hope that the snores will subside.

I look forward to the summer as with the AC I usually don't hear the snores. :-)

Re: Inconsistent use of CPAP

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:22 am
by Julie
Be careful about using A/C in the bedrm as it can affect humidity (drying) and you may want to consider the individual situation you have depending on how much A/C you need vs how much you want, but certainly uncomfortable heat is also not conducive to good Cpap.