Burping Up Food. Throat Closing Up. HELP/ADVICE?

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Re: Burping Up Food. Throat Closing Up. HELP/ADVICE?

Post by sean4123 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm

Janknitz wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:06 pm
Can you clarify something here?

You said
I now burp up food an hour or so after eating it, and my throat seems to be getting swollen and closing.
Are you in bed already an hour after eating? If so, that needs to change immediately. The burping up food is likely GERD (but it could be something else like some sort of esophageal stricture so you really do need to see a GI doctor!). In any case, you should not try to go to sleep until at least 3 hours after eating. If this is happening when you haven't gone to bed in the evening yet, it's clearly NOT CPAP related.

You will be prescribed Proton Pump Inhibitors to lessen the inflammation. But note those are for SHORT TERM use (your doctor may tell you differently, but I highly suggest you research long term effects). They should not be used indefinitely. They treat symptoms, not the underlying issues, and can make the underlying issues worse by interfering with your digestive tract's need for acid. The long term effects are nasty (dementia being one). Few doctors address the underlying issues.

If it is GERD and not some mechanical obstruction (again, you MUST be seen by a GI doc for a diagnosis--check out your options for help with medical expenses as this is serious stuff), then there are two books that you should read: Why Stomach Acid is Good for You by Dr. Lenard Wright, and FAst Tract Digestion: LPR, Acid Reflux and GERD Diet Cure without Drugs by Norman Robillard, Ph.D.

If the CPAP pressure is causing aerophagia, you may need to make some simple adjustments to your pressure or you may need a machine with a lower exhalation pressure (BIPAP). A simple fix to try is training yourself to sleep with the tongue on the roof of the mouth (practice all day when you are not talking or eating) because in most (not all) people that seals off the mouth from the airway and reduces or eliminates air swallowing.
Thank you for this feedback everyone. In terms of the weight gain, it is really strange. I have always been slim and tall and 175 lbs max. After CPAP, I puffed up to 215 within 7-8 months. It seemed to also correlate with the changing of a machine and mask, but I can't assume that was the cause as it was the same pressure settings and the mask was more confortable.

The scary thing is I do NOT overeat. In fact, i've been eating maybe 1-2 regular sized meals a day, yet EVERYTHING gets burped up in at least some amount or other. Even just some cereal, and I can expect to seem some of it within an hour in the sink. Its terrifying, and the sleep doctor I have thinks its absolutely preposterous to assume its CPAP related. He says if I were retaining air, it would come out within a few hours and now last all day. I disagree, as I've always had constipation issues.

Anyhow, I may get the scope done, even though its $3000 out of pocket, just so I can get to the bottom of this.

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Re: Burping Up Food. Throat Closing Up. HELP/ADVICE?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:19 pm

sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm
i've been eating maybe 1-2 regular sized meals a day
Standard advice is to eat three smaller meals per day instead of one or two larger meals.
sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm
I've always had constipation issues.
Eating enough fiber? Drinking enough water?
sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm
I now burp up food an hour or so after eating it, and my throat seems to be getting swollen and closing.
GERD can irritate the airway (throat) causing it to swell.

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Re: Burping Up Food. Throat Closing Up. HELP/ADVICE?

Post by sean4123 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:58 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:19 pm
sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm
i've been eating maybe 1-2 regular sized meals a day
Standard advice is to eat three smaller meals per day instead of one or two larger meals.
sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm
I've always had constipation issues.
Eating enough fiber? Drinking enough water?
sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:01 pm
I now burp up food an hour or so after eating it, and my throat seems to be getting swollen and closing.
GERD can irritate the airway (throat) causing it to swell.
I will try to eat smaller meals more consistently. I take stool sofenters and will start doing fiber pills. I've never have GERD of any kind until I started with CPAP. Also never weight anymore than 185 my entire life. My sleep doctor attributes my weight gain to "getting older." I cannot stand doctors sometimes, and this one in particular seems very biased against any criticisms of CPAP therapy. He says he is has NEVER seen CPAP therapy cause weight gain.

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Post by Janknitz » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:06 pm

You didn't answer my question. Are you going to bed immediately after eating, or are you having that symptom after meals when you are still active and not in bed?
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Post by Julie » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:07 pm

If your MD really at†ributes weight gain to getting older please find another MD - that's about as pathetic and out of date as it gets.

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Post by palerider » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:03 pm

Cpapian wrote:
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But, the biggest and best thing you can do is exercise, walk, walk, walk, and walk some more until your 25 lbs is gone.
Or, not: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/ ... n-calories

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Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:22 pm

But BS is so easy to SELL!

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Post by Cpapian » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:20 pm

palerider wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:03 pm
Cpapian wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:54 am
But, the biggest and best thing you can do is exercise, walk, walk, walk, and walk some more until your 25 lbs is gone.
Or, not: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/ ... n-calories
I heard about this on the news last year. They make some good, common sesnse points. However, I feel the article could cause an individual to throw up their arms in despair feeling their weight is out of their control and do nothing about it.

The article/study does not say that exercise is useless in terms of weight loss, but rather that it alone is not enough. The gold standard for weight loss must also include healthy eating, reduced calorie intake, an otherwise active lifestyle coupled with realistic expectations. Quite honestly, I thought that was common knowledge and goes without saying.

But walking is good advice. And it does help tremendously with gerd symptoms. And will result in weight loss, albeit, slowly, combined with suitable common sense dietary and lifestyle practices. :roll: If the OP loses a pound a month, then in two years the new weight is lost. The two years will go by, no matter what.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:41 pm

sean4123 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:58 pm
will start doing fiber pills
You should get fiber from foods.

I just checked a popular brand of fiber pills. One pill has 500 mg fiber. One apple has about 4500 mg fiber.

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Post by palerider » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:47 pm

Cpapian wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:20 pm
palerider wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:03 pm
Cpapian wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:54 am
But, the biggest and best thing you can do is exercise, walk, walk, walk, and walk some more until your 25 lbs is gone.
Or, not: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/ ... n-calories
I heard about this on the news last year. They make some good, common sesnse points. However, I feel the article could cause an individual to throw up their arms in despair feeling their weight is out of their control and do nothing about it.

The article/study does not say that exercise is useless in terms of weight loss, but rather that it alone is not enough. The gold standard for weight loss must also include healthy eating, reduced calorie intake, an otherwise active lifestyle coupled with realistic expectations. Quite honestly, I thought that was common knowledge and goes without saying.

But walking is good advice. And it does help tremendously with gerd symptoms. And will result in weight loss, albeit, slowly, combined with suitable common sense dietary and lifestyle practices. :roll: If the OP loses a pound a month, then in two years the new weight is lost. The two years will go by, no matter what.
"Science, fah, don't need it"
There was a similar article in mens health this last month.

Sure, exercise is good, walking is good, but science doesn't back up your "walk it off, fatty" attitude.

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Post by Cpapian » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:13 pm

palerider wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:47 pm
Cpapian wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:20 pm
palerider wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:03 pm
Cpapian wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:54 am
But, the biggest and best thing you can do is exercise, walk, walk, walk, and walk some more until your 25 lbs is gone.
Or, not: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/ ... n-calories
I heard about this on the news last year. They make some good, common sesnse points. However, I feel the article could cause an individual to throw up their arms in despair feeling their weight is out of their control and do nothing about it.

The article/study does not say that exercise is useless in terms of weight loss, but rather that it alone is not enough. The gold standard for weight loss must also include healthy eating, reduced calorie intake, an otherwise active lifestyle coupled with realistic expectations. Quite honestly, I thought that was common knowledge and goes without saying.

But walking is good advice. And it does help tremendously with gerd symptoms. And will result in weight loss, albeit, slowly, combined with suitable common sense dietary and lifestyle practices. :roll: If the OP loses a pound a month, then in two years the new weight is lost. The two years will go by, no matter what.
"Science, fah, don't need it"
There was a similar article in mens health this last month.

Sure, exercise is good, walking is good, but science doesn't back up your "walk it off, fatty" attitude.
Maybe you should read the article. Exercise is a component of weight loss and its maintenance.

To the OP, the more I think about it, 25 lbs in 8'ish months is way too much to explain by saying you are getting older. If your inputs and outputs haven't changed then you will need to look for other causes. Any new drugs? Have you taken up meditation? Thyroid?

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Post by Julie » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:14 pm

I have seen a couple of major reports lately saying that exercise is not enough by any means and that a proper diet and calories do count.

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Post by palerider » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:41 pm

Cpapian wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:13 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:47 pm
Sure, exercise is good, walking is good, but science doesn't back up your "walk it off, fatty" attitude.
Maybe you should read the article. Exercise is a component of weight loss and its maintenance.

To the OP, the more I think about it, 25 lbs in 8'ish months is way too much to explain by saying you are getting older. If your inputs and outputs haven't changed then you will need to look for other causes. Any new drugs? Have you taken up meditation? Thyroid?
I read the article. I read the article in mens health, that said that the body adjusts it's calorie burn to compensate for exercise.

The fact that most of your calories are burned just staying alive, and digesting food leaves a wide range for it to change.

That's why walk walk walk it off just isn't as effective as your comments strive to make it.

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Post by Julie » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:04 am

Uh... not my comments, but don't want to be picky :D

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Post by Cpapian » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:21 am

palerider wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:41 pm
Cpapian wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:13 pm
palerider wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:47 pm
Sure, exercise is good, walking is good, but science doesn't back up your "walk it off, fatty" attitude.
Maybe you should read the article. Exercise is a component of weight loss and its maintenance.

To the OP, the more I think about it, 25 lbs in 8'ish months is way too much to explain by saying you are getting older. If your inputs and outputs haven't changed then you will need to look for other causes. Any new drugs? Have you taken up meditation? Thyroid?
I read the article. I read the article in mens health, that said that the body adjusts it's calorie burn to compensate for exercise.

The fact that most of your calories are burned just staying alive, and digesting food leaves a wide range for it to change.

That's why walk walk walk it off just isn't as effective as your comments strive to make it.
I suspect you are taking my comments personally. You shouldn't. They were directed specifically to the OP who had many GERD like symptoms. Many of which I had. And were successfully resolved by walking, walking, and more walking.

Lets agree to disagree and move on.

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