How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

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How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by bwexler » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:11 pm

I am using my A10 ASV and oxygen concentrator wit 50' of tubing, so I can keep the concentrator in the bathroom with the door closed.
Last night I heard the sound of water in the tubing. It is easy to recognize.
This morning i visually verified the water in the tubing.
Is there an easy way to remove the water, short of replacing the tubing?
The tubing is threaded through holes in cabinets and walls, and requires some effort to replace.

I am currently running the concenetrater with the distant end of the tubing open.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by HoseCrusher » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:19 pm

How about blowing some compressed air through...

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:20 pm

bwexler wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:11 pm
I am using my A10 ASV and oxygen concentrator wit 50' of tubing, so I can keep the concentrator in the bathroom with the door closed.
Last night I heard the sound of water in the tubing. It is easy to recognize.
This morning i visually verified the water in the tubing.
Is there an easy way to remove the water, short of replacing the tubing?
The tubing is threaded through holes in cabinets and walls, and requires some effort to replace.

I am currently running the concenetrater with the distant end of the tubing open.
That's what I'd do, just turn up the flow to max, and let it run for a bit.

How'd you get water in the tubing??

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:21 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:19 pm
How about blowing some compressed air through...
Depending on the compressed air, that could be worse.

There might be oil residue (depending on the compressor) and probably more moisture than would be coming from a concentrator.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by HoseCrusher » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:25 pm

I was thinking of a can of compressed air like that used for cleaning off a keyboard.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by Goofproof » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:33 pm

With luck the Bathroom is the most Germ laden, Mold Laden room in your house. It's the poorest choice for putting the O2 Compressor. The Water is coming from the Air in your Bathroom, germs and all.

The way to remove the Water from the hose, is to remove the source, by putting the Compressor in a Clean Dry Room to run. Running the compressor in a clean dry room will remove and stop the Water in the O2 hose. Jim
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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:13 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:25 pm
I was thinking of a can of compressed air like that used for cleaning off a keyboard.
Oh, aye, that'd be safe.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:15 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:33 pm
With luck the Bathroom is the most Germ laden, Mold Laden room in your house. It's the poorest choice for putting the O2 Compressor. The Water is coming from the Air in your Bathroom, germs and all.

The way to remove the Water from the hose, is to remove the source, by putting the Compressor in a Clean Dry Room to run. Running the compressor in a clean dry room will remove and stop the Water in the O2 hose. Jim
Can't see much of that "germ/mold" getting through the HEPA filters on the intake of the concentrator.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by bwexler » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:37 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:20 pm
bwexler wrote:
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How'd you get water in the tubing??
I believe it is condensation.
I don't want to hear that freight train and I can't think of another location in the house that would provide electricity, quiet, and within reach of a 50' air line.
With my new ASV the air line is connected to the heated hose at the back of the AC10 instead of the end near the mask with a plastic O2 injector/adapter.
It seems to function a bit different, better and more user friendly.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by dojiscalper » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:50 pm

In compressing air to make sure there is no moisture the two main things are making sure the air coming into the compressor is dry and then after the air is compressed you need an inline water filter to catch the rest.

If I had tubing for medical use and needed to remove water from it I'd probably blow air through it as well. A can of air might not give enough pressure or run long enough and using an air compressor might not be the best way either unless you add the water filter first and then let it run to dry out the wet lines.
If I didn't have any of that ready and needed the water out I'd probably use my CPAP machine and simply put my CPAP tubing on the other tubing and maybe wrap tape around it to make a seal then run the CPAP machine until I dried the tubing. Very simple and free for a quick fix. The CPAP with the humidifier empty is about as dry a pump as your gonna get without some added cost/work and its oiless unlike most. garage compressors.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by bwexler » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:06 pm

dojiscalper wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:50 pm
In compressing air to make sure there is no moisture the two main things are making sure the air coming into the compressor is dry and then after the air is compressed you need an inline water filter to catch the rest.

If I had tubing for medical use and needed to remove water from it I'd probably blow air through it as well. A can of air might not give enough pressure or run long enough and using an air compressor might not be the best way either unless you add the water filter first and then let it run to dry out the wet lines.
If I didn't have any of that ready and needed the water out I'd probably use my CPAP machine and simply put my CPAP tubing on the other tubing and maybe wrap tape around it to make a seal then run the CPAP machine until I dried the tubing. Very simple and free for a quick fix. The CPAP with the humidifier empty is about as dry a pump as your gonna get without some added cost/work and its oiless unlike most. garage compressors.
That's a good idea. The oxygen tubing is already connected to one end of the heated hose.
All I would have to do is plug the mask end of the hose and leave the other end of the oxygen tubing disconnected from the concentrator.
Then I could turn on mask fit or set the AC 10 in CPAP mode at a pressure of 4 or 5.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by Goofproof » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:09 pm

dojiscalper wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:50 pm
In compressing air to make sure there is no moisture the two main things are making sure the air coming into the compressor is dry and then after the air is compressed you need an inline water filter to catch the rest.

If I had tubing for medical use and needed to remove water from it I'd probably blow air through it as well. A can of air might not give enough pressure or run long enough and using an air compressor might not be the best way either unless you add the water filter first and then let it run to dry out the wet lines.
If I didn't have any of that ready and needed the water out I'd probably use my CPAP machine and simply put my CPAP tubing on the other tubing and maybe wrap tape around it to make a seal then run the CPAP machine until I dried the tubing. Very simple and free for a quick fix. The CPAP with the humidifier empty is about as dry a pump as your gonna get without some added cost/work and its oiless unlike most. garage compressors.
We are talking about O2 at very small volumes (under 10 LPM, usually 2 or 3 LPM), at very low pressures. Many times O2 must have water bubbled thru it for adding moisture. If your O2 unit is pumping water you have it in a poor air source. I wouldn't count on all O2 compressors to have working HEPA filters, mine only requires to have the outer filters washed out every few months, the inter filter might get changed at overhaul. Jim
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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:31 pm

Maybe the concentrator needs to get a checkup.
It should not do that.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:07 pm

bwexler wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:37 pm
I believe it is condensation.
I don't want to hear that freight train and I can't think of another location in the house that would provide electricity, quiet, and within reach of a 50' air line.
Can you get your concentrator swapped out for something modern? I've got two here for my brother, they're both quiet enough to have by the bed.

Respironics everflow OPI (not even the Q model) and an invacare perfecto 2. the 2 is a little noisier... with a purring thump every few seconds... the Respironics is just a soft pfft pfft every few seconds.

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Re: How can I remove water from O2 tubing?

Post by palerider » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:11 pm

dojiscalper wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:50 pm
In compressing air to make sure there is no moisture the two main things are making sure the air coming into the compressor is dry and then after the air is compressed you need an inline water filter to catch the rest.
Uh, no, one doesn't normally use a dryer with an oxygen concentrator.
dojiscalper wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:50 pm
If I didn't have any of that ready and needed the water out I'd probably use my CPAP machine and simply put my CPAP tubing on the other tubing and maybe wrap tape around it to make a seal then run the CPAP machine until I dried the tubing. Very simple and free for a quick fix. The CPAP with the humidifier empty is about as dry a pump as your gonna get without some added cost/work and its oiless unlike most. garage compressors.
You're not going to get any appreciable flow through a 50 foot oxygen line from a cpap.

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