A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
Jdougc74
Posts: 42
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:39 am

A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by Jdougc74 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:19 pm

I brux and use a night guard, just a single one from my dentist on the top teeth. Would a double side one with only a slight forward adjustment for my lower jaw be good to use with my CPAP machine?
I am strictly a side sleeper and I have been using the ResMed P10 cushion for the past 2 weeks.
I use a soft cervical collar and mouth tape and one ear plug on the top ear.
I wear a night brace to alleviate Planter fasciitis.
My numbers look consistently good, low IHI, but my breathing patterns show what might be uncounted Flow Limitations.
I am a little bit more rested, but seemed tired in the afternoon and by 8pm I am very tired. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I inserted my highly inaccurate sleep data in my Flow Limitations chart, haha

_________________
MachineMask
Additional Comments: AirSense 11 CPAP not Autoset
Attachments
zoomed ragged breathing 11-18th 2024-2.png
zoomed ragged breathing 11-18th 2024-2.png (69.43 KiB) Viewed 1732 times
zoomed breathing 11-18th 2024.png
zoomed breathing 11-18th 2024.png (68.09 KiB) Viewed 1732 times
cpap and sleep Nov 18th 2024.jpg
cpap and sleep Nov 18th 2024.jpg (427.71 KiB) Viewed 1732 times

User avatar
ChicagoGranny
Posts: 14927
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm
Location: USA

Re: A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:08 pm

Jdougc74 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:19 pm
Would a double side one with only a slight forward adjustment for my lower jaw be good to use with my CPAP machine?
Links to the ones you are considering?
"It's not the number of breaths we take, it's the number of moments that take our breath away."

Cuando cuentes cuentos, cuenta cuántas cuentos cuentas.

Jdougc74
Posts: 42
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:39 am

Re: A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by Jdougc74 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:40 pm

I was looking a a cheaper one to start out, like this one. VitalSleep Anti-Snoring Mouthpiece ASIN ‏ : ‎ B098KNKV96
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098KNKV96/?_ ... hdr=t&th=1

_________________
MachineMask
Additional Comments: AirSense 11 CPAP not Autoset

User avatar
ChicagoGranny
Posts: 14927
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm
Location: USA

Re: A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:40 pm

Most of these types of questions can only be answered by the user through trial and error. Everybody is different.
"It's not the number of breaths we take, it's the number of moments that take our breath away."

Cuando cuentes cuentos, cuenta cuántas cuentos cuentas.

User avatar
Conrad
Posts: 576
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:10 am
Location: Northern Illinois

Re: A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by Conrad » Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:50 am

I'm also a bruxer and I've been using a nighttime occlusal device (the official name) for around 15 years. The same one! It's a custom job and was molded to my teeth, just the top.

I can't comment on using two of them, upper and lower, not sure how this would workout. Two are not needed tooth wise but perhaps it could help with apnea? Dunno.
ResMed AirCurve 10 Vauto Swift FX

Do not regret growing older. It is a privilege denied to many...

Jdougc74
Posts: 42
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:39 am

Re: A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by Jdougc74 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:24 am

Conrad,
Thanks for the reply.
Presently I have a dentist made one for my top teeth. There is quite a bit of adherence to my top teeth. I have heard if one has this for both top and bottom teeth, it might help keep one's mouth shut. I am not necessarily looking to control my apnea with it.
I am having neck surgery in Jan 2025 and may have to give up my soft cervical collar until I heal.
I have not had great success with chin straps, some pulled my head back, possibly making the apnea worse. So I am searching for a viable temporary option.

_________________
MachineMask
Additional Comments: AirSense 11 CPAP not Autoset

User avatar
Conrad
Posts: 576
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:10 am
Location: Northern Illinois

Re: A bruxer wondering about dbl sided mouth guard

Post by Conrad » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:38 am

Jdougc74 wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:24 am
Conrad,
Thanks for the reply.
Presently I have a dentist made one for my top teeth. There is quite a bit of adherence to my top teeth. I have heard if one has this for both top and bottom teeth, it might help keep one's mouth shut. I am not necessarily looking to control my apnea with it.
I am having neck surgery in Jan 2025 and may have to give up my soft cervical collar until I heal.
I have not had great success with chin straps, some pulled my head back, possibly making the apnea worse. So I am searching for a viable temporary option.
"There is quite a bit of adherence to my top teeth."

Same here. The thing snaps onto my teeth pretty tightly. I can't budge it with my tongue, and I have to use two fingers to remove it.

I've 'trained' my tongue to press against the roof of my mouth with the tip just touching the device's edge. This helps tremendously but isn't always 100%.
ResMed AirCurve 10 Vauto Swift FX

Do not regret growing older. It is a privilege denied to many...