How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.

How did you RESOLVE mouth leaks when using a nasal pillow mask?

I use a chinstrap, and that's enough for me
62
22%
I use a full-face mask w/nasal pillows (e.g. Mirage Liberty)
24
8%
I switched to a full-face mask w/o nasal pillows (e.g. Mirage Quattro)
58
20%
I glue my lips shut with denture tape/paste
4
1%
I tape my mouth shut (pls. post brand/model of tape, and method)
55
19%
I use the famous DIY Oral Appliance as designed by frequenseeker (or a variation, again, pls. describe)
1
0%
I used to have this problem, but it went away (e.g. with the tongue trick or something like that)
37
13%
I am an elite nose-breathing machine and have not had significant troubles with mouth leaks
44
15%
 
Total votes: 285

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How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by Bob3000 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:54 pm

(NOTE: Please only vote for what actually works for you personally, i.e. what you use most/every night. Thanks!)

To all those who regularly use a nasal pillow mask (excluding the Liberty, Hybrid, etc.), how did you stop mouth leaks? I know for us mouth-breathers, using a nasal pillow mask can be challenging. Personally, I've tried several full-face masks, including the Liberty, the Quattro, and the Hybrid, but the only thing I can get a good seal with is a pure nasal pillows mask. I am currently replaced the noisy but otherwise great Headrest mask with a much quieter and nearly equally effective Swift FX. The problem is that I have a fairly high pressure (18 cm2) and I suffer from massive leaks through the mouth. I simply cannot sleep for more than an hour without waking up to mouth leaks. I know I'm not alone on this, so I was hoping a poll would guide me in solving this problem.

After you vote, please consider posting some details, maybe some things you tried that didn't work, etc.

Thanks, and sweet slumber, fellow hoseheads!

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by KatieW » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:10 pm

My mouth leaks were minimal, since my leak rate is seldom over 6 l/minute, and never high enough to affect my AHI. But I didn't like waking up with dry cotton mouth. I've been using the PapCap Chin Strap, and the mouth dryness is still there, but is not as severe now. I still keep a glass of water next to my bed, and if I wake up, I take a sip and slosh it around. I also use Biotene Toothpaste for Dry Mouth.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by rested gal » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:18 pm

I put tape over my mouth...3M blue painters' tape from Lowe's.

I add a chin strap to keep cheeks flat.
Lessens amount of air that can fill my mouth and put pressure from inside against the tape.
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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by Bob3000 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:37 pm

rested gal wrote:I put tape over my mouth...3M blue painters' tape from Lowe's.

I add a chin strap to keep cheeks flat.
Lessens amount of air that can fill my mouth and put pressure from inside against the tape.
In several other posts, you've described success with both the DIY oral appliance, and the 'tongue technique', but now you are back to taping? Why is that? Thanks!

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by fidelfs » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:52 pm

I keep my tongue up all the time. It is funny, I keep doing it even when I am awake, I didn't notice that until I tried my nasal mask and learned that I don't leaks anymore.

Now, I can feel that my tongue is always up, isn't something?

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by Bob3000 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:55 pm

fidelfs wrote:I keep my tongue up all the time. It is funny, I keep doing it even when I am awake, I didn't notice that until I tried my nasal mask and learned that I don't leaks anymore.

Now, I can feel that my tongue is always up, isn't something?
That's awesome. I wish I could do that, but my nasal passages are a bit small so the resistance to breathing is high; basically, I can only regularly nose breathe when I am hooked up to a CPAP machine and have all that pressure keeping my nasal passages open.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by mdintx » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:42 pm

PapCap plus Micropore tape. I put chapstick on my lips (and just beyond) to protect from the tape.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by unityco » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:49 pm

I'm rather new to this (only started in November,) but I've been very lucky to not experience much in the way of mouth leaks. (I'm at zero more nights than not. ) It seems that before I started CPAP, and before I was even consciously aware I had apnea, I was instinctively using the tongue trick. I notice myself doing it at night now that I know what it is.

I'm really glad that mouth leaks are one hurdle I haven't had to overcome! Good luck with your battle!

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by plr66 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:56 am

I have used both Scotch and 3M brand blue painters tape for delicate surfaces. Used to use the 2" wide tape, but found that I did not need all that surface covered, and had wrinkles in the tape at the chin, which at times allowed bits of air to escape by morning. I now use 1" wide tape when using a nasal pillow mask.
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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by rosiefrosie » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:03 am

I use gentile paper tape, 1 piece across my mouth and folded at the edges for easy removal. I also put chapstick on my lips before putting the tape on. This works best for me.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by gasparama » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:54 am

I use the 2 inch gentle micropore tape. However, I don't use Chapstick because that allows my lips to part just enough to (and this is gross) let drool through. It's difficult to roll my lips in because that causes pain in my jaws.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by donnafowler » Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:51 am

I use NextCare gentle paper tape, small vertical strips at the corners of my mouth (one corner seems to leak more than the other and the extra tension from the vertical strip helps keep them closed) and a horizontal strip across my mouth over that, ends folded under. This has worked well for me for the last 6 months or so.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by rosiefrosie » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:33 pm

rosiefrosie wrote:I use gentile paper tape, 1 piece across my mouth and folded at the edges for easy removal. I also put chapstick on my lips before putting the tape on. This works best for me.

rosie

That's suppose to be 'gentle' paper tape.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by Bob3000 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:50 pm

Last night I used the Nexcare "gentle" paper tape, and when I took it off at 5:30 this morning, it ripped a triangular piece of flesh from my face. Yeah, really. I will try the 3M Blue Painter's tape this evening.

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Re: How did YOU Resolve Your Mouth-Leaks? (poll)

Post by Velbor » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:05 pm

I "resolved" my mouth leak by collecting data on it, analyzing it, quantifying it, and determining that, while it does exist, it does not present any significant compromise to effective PAP therapy, nor any clinically significant problems, and that other than periodically keeping an eye on the data, it could safely and conveniently be ignored.

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