CPAP: can it help reduce excessive yawning?

[Icecream77]

I’ve been yawning excessively for about five months. It could be related to some meds I take and/or my sleep apnea which is mild. I started using an oral device but got vicious jaw muscle pain so I started using a CPAP yesterday. Will a CPAP potentially help reduce my yawning? I sure hope so.

[LSAT]

Come back in a week and let us know.

[zonker]

I’ve been yawning excessively for about five months. It could be related to some meds I take and/or my sleep apnea which is mild. I started using an oral device but got vicious jaw muscle pain so I started using a CPAP yesterday. Will a CPAP potentially help reduce my yawning? I sure hope so.

welcome to the zoo. the only thing i can present you with is my own experience. i was never by any means what i would consider an excessive yawner. but i DID notice after i got my treatment optimized that i hardly ever yawn at all.

in this case, i guess your own experience will be your guide.

if you need any help getting your settings dialed in, please feel free to ask us.

good luck!

[Icecream77]

Thanks I’ll send over my settings later. The equipment provider set them up according to my sleep study results.

I yawn roughly 100-250 times per day. It might be a record.

[chunkyfrog]

I heard that yawning is a reflex to low oxygen levels.
It would be interesting to use a pulse-oximeter to note saturation level during an urge to yawn.
That would help explain the relation to cpap use.
--A quick way to raise blood oxygen is to take deep breaths, but to exhale slowly, through pursed lips.
I have done this, and a pulse-ox can be such a cool toy.
Run until the numbers drop, then make them climb fast by recovery breathing.

[zonker]

Thanks I’ll send over my settings later. The equipment provider set them up according to my sleep study results.

I yawn roughly 100-250 times per day. It might be a record.

sadly, your dme will mostly not have set your machine up correctly.

[klm49]

I’ve been yawning excessively for about five months. It could be related to some meds I take and/or my sleep apnea which is mild. I started using an oral device but got vicious jaw muscle pain so I started using a CPAP yesterday. Will a CPAP potentially help reduce my yawning? I sure hope so.

I went thru a pweiod of yawning a lot when I first started. It went away.

[Icecream77]

Thanks I’ll send over my settings later. The equipment provider set them up according to my sleep study results.

I yawn roughly 100-250 times per day. It might be a record.

sadly, your dme will mostly not have set your machine up correctly.

This is what the machine says. It’s a Luna 2.


Ramp 10min
Mode Auto
RampP 4.0
MinAPAP 6.0
MaxAPAP 20.0
MaxRamp 30

It has a water drop symbol also and the number 2 next to it.

Do you need my sleep study results? Which numbers?

[Julie]

Do you understand how the ramp works? It has its own settings, diff. from pressure settings in autos, and it is to make it easier for people who find it difficult to go from the start-up (of whatever it is - 4, 5, 7, etc) to the full scripted min. of ?? 9, 11, 14 (that's high), so is usually set to e.g. 10 or so mins. to reach that min. pressure setting. But if that is only 4 or 6 to begin with, there's little point in using the ramp at all, let alone for any length of time, because the lowest setting on machines is 4 so there's nothing to ramp up TO and you're just getting partially treated til it reaches 4 or 5 or 7. So using the ramp is fairly useless unless your min. pressure setting's quite high and setting a time of e.g. 20 mins. to get from the default low of 4 to e.g. 7 is just not helpful. Most here don't use the ramp at all.

[zonker]

Thanks I’ll send over my settings later. The equipment provider set them up according to my sleep study results.

I yawn roughly 100-250 times per day. It might be a record.

sadly, your dme will mostly not have set your machine up correctly.

This is what the machine says. It’s a Luna 2.


Ramp 10min
Mode Auto
RampP 4.0
MinAPAP 6.0
MaxAPAP 20.0
MaxRamp 30

It has a water drop symbol also and the number 2 next to it.

Do you need my sleep study results? Which numbers?

i'm afraid that i don't possess the knowledge to help with your machine. i'm not even sure that your machine will work with the software called oscar, which is pretty much standard here for helping people with their sleep. so let's wait to see for someone better equipped to come along.

i'm guessing(and merely guessing) that the minimum is too low and needs to be raised for proper treatment. but PLEASE don't go messing with your settings until someone with more experience comes along.

[Pugsy]

i'm not even sure that your machine will work with the software called oscar, which is pretty much standard here for helping people with their sleep

The Luna 2 is a totally different brand of machine and it is NOT compatible with OSCAR or SleepyHead.
It's made by 3B Medical...
I have no idea what data it collects or how to get it other then the QR code thing
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/3bmedi ... humidifier
It is not a machine I would ever recommend anyone use.

[zonker]

i'm not even sure that your machine will work with the software called oscar, which is pretty much standard here for helping people with their sleep

The Luna 2 is a totally different brand of machine and it is NOT compatible with OSCAR or SleepyHead.
It's made by 3B Medical...
I have no idea what data it collects or how to get it other then the QR code thing
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/3bmedi ... humidifier
It is not a machine I would ever recommend anyone use.

yeah i FINALLY found it at cpap.com after i found out through a google search that it's luna II not 2.

grrrr....

so is there anything that can be done for the op in the way of machine settings? (doesn't look like it from what you have written.)

does a clinician manual exist?

[Pugsy]

does a clinician manual exist?

The apneaboard has something but not sure what it is....probably not a complete manual like we are used to.
It's down in the "Other" machines section at the bottom. While they don't show the Luna II it probably has the same general instructions like we see between the other brands different models. How to get to clinical setup menu is the same no matter if we are doing the S9 or the AirSense 10.
BMC 3B Products Luna CPAP (Setup Guide)
BMC 3B Products Luna Auto-CPAP (Setup Guide)

[zonker]

does a clinician manual exist?

The apneaboard has something but not sure what it is....probably not a complete manual like we are used to.
It's down in the "Other" machines section at the bottom. While they don't show the Luna II it probably has the same general instructions like we see between the other brands different models. How to get to clinical setup menu is the same no matter if we are doing the S9 or the AirSense 10.
BMC 3B Products Luna CPAP (Setup Guide)
BMC 3B Products Luna Auto-CPAP (Setup Guide)

well, this sucks ostrich eggs.

then we can only hope that the op will have success and that his/her yawning will calm after continued cpap use.

in looking back on the original question, it was stated "mild apnea". so, we can hope all is well with the treatment at hand.

[Icecream77]

OP here. The equipment vendor selected this machine for me without asking me for my choice. Typical. I did all this reading about different machines for nothing. I don't think I can easily convince them or the insurance co. to cover an exchange. Note, I didn't pay anything for the machine or the nasal mask.

My apnea is mild according to my pulmonologist.

I'm supposed to use the machine for a month and then see my pulmonologist who is getting the data for compliance purposes. I assume he'll be able to gauge the effectiveness of the settings and the machine through the data? I sure hope so.

I've been unable to fall asleep with the machine so far. I am comfortable breathing through my nose and I don't feel claustrophobic. I think I'm just not relaxed enough to sleep with it on. My brain is a bit focused on the mask and my breathing. I will say it's amazing to be able to take full breaths in and out. I had asthma as a child and to this day have never breathed as fully as a healthy person. I'm now wearing the mask and using the machine an hour or two during the day to get used to it.

So what do you suggest I do? Leave it all be and try to use it and see what happens? Contact the equipment vendor or my pulmonologist? If the latter, what should I say?