Water Types

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Water Types

Post by CWM030 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:31 pm

Hello,

I just got a new machine Friday, which was August 10th. After about a month of fighting with Medicaid.

And, I currently do not have any distilled water on hand right now.. But, we have water delivered monthly from Sparkletts.

The type of water that I buy for my us, the label says.... " Crystal Fresh"

Can I use that in my machine, until I am able to go to the store and buy some distilled water?

Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Water Types

Post by Goofproof » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:59 pm

Three kinds, Wet, Dry, and Freeze dried! Use the Distilled, or ignore and use any other kind of potable water, clean the HH as Needed. Try the Search Feature Dozens of useless paged like this to guide you. Jim
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Re: Water Types

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:06 pm

CWM030 wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:31 pm
Hello,

I just got a new machine Friday, which was August 10th. After about a month of fighting with Medicaid.

And, I currently do not have any distilled water on hand right now.. But, we have water delivered monthly from Sparkletts.

The type of water that I buy for my us, the label says.... " Crystal Fresh"

Can I use that in my machine, until I am able to go to the store and buy some distilled water?
YES, or you can use tap water...

The use of distilled water is recommended for convenience purposes, (though few people recognize that), if you use distilled, then you don't have to clean mineral buildup out of your humidifier tank.

In other countries, where distilled water is much harder to come by than here, the manuals say "use water" instead of "use distilled water".

If you choose to use your bottled water, or tap water, and you get a mineral film buildup in the tank, then just give it a vinegar soak now and then to dissolve the buildup.

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Re: Water Types

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:36 pm

If you are having water delivered because of an "off" smell in your tap water,
I urge you to use the water you drink in the cpap tank.
I have inadvertently used unpleasant-smelling tap water in my machine;
and it is an experience I do not care to revisit.

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Re: Water Types

Post by CWM030 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:17 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:36 pm
If you are having water delivered because of an "off" smell in your tap water,
I urge you to use the water you drink in the cpap tank.
I have inadvertently used unpleasant-smelling tap water in my machine;
and it is an experience I do not care to revisit.
Hello,

No, our water has alot of sand in it. And alot of the older people, that have been in this small town either almost all of their life / or all of their life , have told me that they think the water is what is causing people to get cancer around here.

After I was told that..... I quit drinking city water. :X NOPE! No more lol.

I mean the water has no smell... Just very sandy / light brown alot of the time. Everyone's water heater goes " CLINK, CLANK, CLINK" because of how hard the water is here.

Chris

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Re: Water Types

Post by D.H. » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:57 am

If you live in the US or Canada, it's best (but not absolutely necessary) to use distilled water. If you live elsewhere (and distilled water is not available) you can use any potable water. Do not use any water than is not safe to drink.

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Re: Water Types

Post by prodigyplace » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:27 am

CWM030 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:17 am
chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:36 pm
If you are having water delivered because of an "off" smell in your tap water,
I urge you to use the water you drink in the cpap tank.
I have inadvertently used unpleasant-smelling tap water in my machine;
and it is an experience I do not care to revisit.
Hello,

No, our water has alot of sand in it. And alot of the older people, that have been in this small town either almost all of their life / or all of their life , have told me that they think the water is what is causing people to get cancer around here.

After I was told that..... I quit drinking city water. :X NOPE! No more lol.

I mean the water has no smell... Just very sandy / light brown alot of the time. Everyone's water heater goes " CLINK, CLANK, CLINK" because of how hard the water is here.

Chris
Use your drinking water, not the sandy water.

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Re: Water Types

Post by CWM030 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:58 am

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Use your drinking water, not the sandy water.
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Hello,

I did :) ..... This is the very first time I've ever used the humidifier with my machine... And I tried setting it on 3... Because Lincare says most patients use the humidifier between the 3 and 5 settings range. ( mine goes up to 8 )

I woke up with a very dry throat... I could barely talk and I had some weird film like stuff on my lips.

I had to call Lincare today... I'm probably going to have to get a different mask...

The Dream Maker mask loses suction during the middle of the night due to either.....

1. My facial hair ???

2. The HIGH PRESSURE that my BI PAP puts out at night.


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Re: Water Types

Post by Okie bipap » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:47 am

I use the Dreamwear FFM at a fairly high pressure (17 cm) and have very little leak. I had a beard for over thirty years, but decided to shave it off when I started using my bilevel machine.

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Re: Water Types

Post by realshelby » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:12 pm

I will be traveling, starting with an airplane flight, for about 10 days. Not easy to take a big jug of distilled water. I could and probably will buy some once I reach my destination. But that will be a bit of a hassle too. How important is the distilled water for short term use? Is it the minerals in tap or regular bottled water you are trying to avoid? What does the stuff in regular water do to your machine? Or is it that distilled water is more sterile?
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Re: Water Types

Post by Stom » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:28 pm

realshelby wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:12 pm
I will be traveling, starting with an airplane flight, for about 10 days. Not easy to take a big jug of distilled water. I could and probably will buy some once I reach my destination. But that will be a bit of a hassle too. How important is the distilled water for short term use? Is it the minerals in tap or regular bottled water you are trying to avoid? What does the stuff in regular water do to your machine? Or is it that distilled water is more sterile?
Plenty of old threads on this.

Only use water that is safe to drink.

To prevent scale build up in the humidifier chamber use the same water you'd use in a steam iron: distilled or deionized, both of which are safe to drink but aren't "drinking water" per se as they both have the minerals removed, which makes the water taste "flat". Most bottled water for drinking has minerals in it, even if it is purified and had the minerals removed during the purification process. They add minerals to make it taste better.

Distilled water sold in grocery stores probably isn't any more sterile than any other bottled water in the store. It isn't sold as sterile.

If you want to use de-mineralized water while traveling, you can pack small bottle of de-mineralized water in your checked luggage in a ziplock to tide you over until you can find a larger supply once you get there. The company H2Doze **claims** that you can get their highly overpriced, not sturdy at all 17 oz bottle of distilled water through TSA as carry on with your CPAP because it has "medically necessary" on the label. But I'm not convinced and don't feel like testing their claim.
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Re: Water Types

Post by CWM030 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:44 pm

Okie bipap wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:47 am
I use the Dreamwear FFM at a fairly high pressure (17 cm) and have very little leak. I had a beard for over thirty years, but decided to shave it off when I started using my bilevel machine.
Maybe that's my problem.

Because it feels like the mask is sliding up and down a bit and the nose part gets pushed up above my nose, which makes the mask leak.

Chris

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Re: Water Types

Post by Franniep51 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:36 pm

The reason for using distilled water is because of minerals. Tap water and bottled water both have minerals dissolved in them. That is why they all have different tastes and, some, different smells. Distilled water is demineralized by heating to steam and cooling condensing it. The minerals are left behind when heated to steam. Be sure to read the label when buying water. You want distilled. Mineral deposits can build up and cause problems. I have had two water pics die because of mineral build up from my tap water. I don’t want this to happen to my CPAP machine.

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Re: Water Types

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:55 pm

CWM030 wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:44 pm
Because it feels like the mask is sliding up and down a bit and the nose part gets pushed up above my nose, which makes the mask leak.
Have you watched a few of the videos on youtube about fitting and adjusting your mask model?

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Re: Water Types

Post by palerider » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:11 pm

realshelby wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:12 pm
I will be traveling, starting with an airplane flight, for about 10 days. Not easy to take a big jug of distilled water. I could and probably will buy some once I reach my destination. But that will be a bit of a hassle too. How important is the distilled water for short term use? Is it the minerals in tap or regular bottled water you are trying to avoid? What does the stuff in regular water do to your machine? Or is it that distilled water is more sterile?
Distilled water is a convenience, so you don't have to clean mineral deposits out of the tank. In other countries where distilled water is less available, the CPAP manuals just say "use water", no mention of distilled.

Distilled water isn't necessarily sterile.

Just use tap water while traveling, and give the tank a vinegar soak when you get home, if there's any buildup.

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