Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

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Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by D.H. » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:56 am

This article states that supplemental oxygen can prevent a rise in blood pressure associated with the cessation of CPAP treatment.

The study was done on twenty-five adults in the UK who were successfully using CPAP for at least one year. i really have to question why they were taken off CPAP, and whether such an experiment is ethical.


Link ===> https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/201 ... 071818.php

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by Goofproof » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:16 am

Huge test, bound to be real science, another on from the Wastebasket. Jim
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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by palerider » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:16 am
Huge test, bound to be real science, another on from the Wastebasket. Jim
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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by lamar2217 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:38 pm

palerider wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:16 am
Huge test, bound to be real science, another on from the Wastebasket. Jim
Do you really expect anything else from DH?
It is unfortunate that Pale Rider's mean spirited sarcasm diminishes the worth of his knowledge.

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by palerider » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:42 pm

lamar2217 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:38 pm
palerider wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:16 am
Huge test, bound to be real science, another on from the Wastebasket. Jim
Do you really expect anything else from DH?
It is unfortunate that Pale Rider's mean spirited sarcasm diminishes the worth of his knowledge.
it's unfortunate that you post your trolling bullshit on this forum.

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by greatunclebill » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:36 pm

D.H. wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:56 am
This article states that supplemental oxygen can prevent a rise in blood pressure associated with the cessation of CPAP treatment.

The study was done on twenty-five adults in the UK who were successfully using CPAP for at least one year. i really have to question why they were taken off CPAP, and whether such an experiment is ethical.


Link ===> https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/201 ... 071818.php
No one here knows why they did what they did. Your question would be best answered by the so called author of the junk article.

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by Goofproof » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:41 pm

palerider wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm
Goofproof wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:16 am
Huge test, bound to be real science, another on from the Wastebasket. Jim
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I'm waiting to be surprised, so far No Joy! Just Trash Can Prose.
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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by Lucyhere » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:43 pm

lamar2217 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:38 pm
palerider wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm

Do you really expect anything else from DH?
It is unfortunate that Pale Rider's mean spirited sarcasm diminishes the worth of his knowledge.

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by palerider » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:47 pm

. wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:41 pm
palerider wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm
. wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:16 am
Huge test, bound to be real science, another on from the Wastebasket. Jim
Do you really expect anything else from DH?
I'm waiting to be surprised, so far No Joy! Just Trash Can Prose.
Amusing that you called him out for stupid first, yet the morons ignore your critical posts... says *far* more about them... doesn't it. :D

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by HoseCrusher » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:35 pm

Interesting study...

No one died during the study so that seems to indicate that a person may be able to live through an extended power outage.

If my BP was 140/90 (high) and I responded similar to what that group did, it would drop to 133/85 (still high). That still leaves me at Stage 1 hypertension but does drop me out of Stage 2. This is better but not ideal.

The drop in ODI is actually more interesting, but it makes sense that if you are supplying oxygen that your blood levels would experience less desaturation. A drop of about 24 would indicate that these people started with an ODI > 30 or something like that. A healthy person has an ODI < 5.

Since there was no significant change in AHI nor in any subjective observations, this doesn't seem to be a good replacement for CPAP. However, if your BP is a little high it may help.

If I may "play" with this statement...

"...given that elevated levels of blood pressure put them at greater risk for heart attack and stroke."

I am surprised that they didn't follow that up with a caution against exercise... :)

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Re: Supplemental oxygen eliminates morning blood pressure rise in sleep apnea patients

Post by Goofproof » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:42 pm

HoseCrusher wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:35 pm
Interesting study...

No one died during the study so that seems to indicate that a person may be able to live through an extended power outage.

If my BP was 140/90 (high) and I responded similar to what that group did, it would drop to 133/85 (still high). That still leaves me at Stage 1 hypertension but does drop me out of Stage 2. This is better but not ideal.

The drop in ODI is actually more interesting, but it makes sense that if you are supplying oxygen that your blood levels would experience less desaturation. A drop of about 24 would indicate that these people started with an ODI > 30 or something like that. A healthy person has an ODI < 5.

Since there was no significant change in AHI nor in any subjective observations, this doesn't seem to be a good replacement for CPAP. However, if your BP is a little high it may help.

If I may "play" with this statement...

"...given that elevated levels of blood pressure put them at greater risk for heart attack and stroke."

I am surprised that they didn't follow that up with a caution against exercise... :)
SHH! That's the topic of their next paid tripe! :lol: Jim
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