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Enchanter, please stop letting anything a tech says influence you. All that matters is what the doctor says! The techs just take measurements. They can't say whether a person has apnea or not - only a doctor can.

You have a tendency to deconstruct what the techs say to you and try to get it to come out the way you want. Techs merely collect data. Doctor gets the collected data. Doctor uses his experience and training to make a diagnosis based on the data recorded on the equipment. The doctor is not influenced by anything the techs says. And neither should you be.

If you want information, call the doctor's office and ask questions about how long you need to use the test equipment you have at your home now and how long until you can get your results.

yaconsult wrote:Enchanter, please stop letting anything a tech says influence you. All that matters is what the doctor says! The techs just take measurements. They can't say whether a person has apnea or not - only a doctor can.

You have a tendency to deconstruct what the techs say to you and try to get it to come out the way you want. Techs merely collect data. Doctor gets the collected data. Doctor uses his experience and training to make a diagnosis based on the data recorded on the equipment. The doctor is not influenced by anything the techs says. And neither should you be.

If you want information, call the doctor's office and ask questions about how long you need to use the test equipment you have at your home now and how long until you can get your results.

Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Cardsfan wrote:When you get your results from the Doctor, let us know. good luck

It's never gonna happen at this pace. It's like watching grass grow.

Enchanter wrote:Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Never ending...

Enchanter,

I am going to be brutally honest. The help you need is beyond the scope of this forum even though I greatly admire the heroic efforts various members have made to assist you. That is why I suggested that you pursue an advocate. (Thank you Madalot and yaconsult for backing me up on this.

Otherwise you are wasting your time which prevents you from getting the help you need. Please ask your dad or somebody for assistance in navigating the medical system so you can move forward. Spinning your wheels on this forum with posts that are all over the place is not helping whatsoever and is just leading to frustration for everyone involved.

49er

Krelvin wrote:

Enchanter wrote:Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Never ending...

I don't often disagree with robysue, but her going against the advice of trained psychologists and trying to guess what enchanter needs.... that was a mistake.

Enchanter wrote:

yaconsult wrote:Enchanter, please stop letting anything a tech says influence you. All that matters is what the doctor says! The techs just take measurements. They can't say whether a person has apnea or not - only a doctor can.

You have a tendency to deconstruct what the techs say to you and try to get it to come out the way you want. Techs merely collect data. Doctor gets the collected data. Doctor uses his experience and training to make a diagnosis based on the data recorded on the equipment. The doctor is not influenced by anything the techs says. And neither should you be.

If you want information, call the doctor's office and ask questions about how long you need to use the test equipment you have at your home now and how long until you can get your results.

Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Enchanter... why would you think that a tech would know more than a physician?? A tech can learn how to hook someone up to a machine in probably a year, maybe two. A doctor goes to medical school for many years and learns (among other things) how to interpret the results of a sleep study.

If the tech "hooked" you up correctly, and I feel sure he did, he did his job! There would be no reason to fire him. He never should have indicated in any manner whether he thought you had SA or not. That was up to your doctor to decide. I remember asking my tech something... she said, "that's up to your doctor to discuss with you." That's what your tech should have said to you.

Edit: Robysue apparently said that the tech knew. What I believe she meant is that if someone has been doing his job for a few years, he starts to pick up clues as to whether a person might have SA or not. That's it... he might have a guess... but only the doctor is able to correctly make that determination.

49er wrote:Enchanter,

I am going to be brutally honest. The help you need is beyond the scope of this forum...

49er

I don't want to agree, but I do.

palerider wrote:

Krelvin wrote:

Enchanter wrote:Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Never ending...

I don't often disagree with robysue, but her going against the advice of trained psychologists and trying to guess what enchanter needs.... that was a mistake.

PR -- where do trained psychologists come into the picture? Maybe I missed that.

As you already know, robysue was doing everything she could to help enchanter. Most of the folks involved in his threads were trying to do that in various ways. Personally, I don't think anything she said to him was a mistake. If there was a "mistake", it was enchanter not following her advice.

My son has a friend (High School Age) that reminds me of Enchanter. This young man's mind is ALWAYS working. He is CONSTANTLY asking questions. When he was visiting once, our microwave bit the dust and within a minute he was asking questions: "Are you going to buy another one?" then "Or can you fix it?" then "How long have you had this one?" then "What brand will get if you replace it?" then "Where will you buy it?" then "How much will you spend on it?" -- questions flying out of his mouth faster than we could begin to think of an answer, and on and on it went. We finally had to get really firm and say "We don't know!!!!"

People like this young man and Enchanter, whose minds never stop and go in hundreds of directions at once, are frustrating for those of us whose minds don't work like that.

Oh, fer cryin' out F'in loud.........put on your big boy pants, acquire a mask and an apap machine and test your own damn self ! Your boohoo, I'm a helpless victim schtick has grown stale. Nut up and take control of your destiny, it seems no one else is planning to do it for you. Sorry but, jeez ! Flame me if you want to but......... beatin' around the bush isn't doin' anyone any good here. Plenty of people have stated that they've never had a sleep Dr. or a sleep study and are doing fine on their own.



schtick: 

Yiddish slang meaning "gimmick" that has come to mean "someone's signature behavior." In the 1940's, Jewish comedians in the Catskills referred to their comedy routines as their schtick.

It's amazing how this guy is leading you folks on... and you let him. I am surprised that you haven't figured him out by now. It's like watching someone fall down the stairs. You figure they will stop, but they keep going.... and going....

Sheriff

ems wrote:

Enchanter wrote:

yaconsult wrote:Enchanter, please stop letting anything a tech says influence you. All that matters is what the doctor says! The techs just take measurements. They can't say whether a person has apnea or not - only a doctor can.

You have a tendency to deconstruct what the techs say to you and try to get it to come out the way you want. Techs merely collect data. Doctor gets the collected data. Doctor uses his experience and training to make a diagnosis based on the data recorded on the equipment. The doctor is not influenced by anything the techs says. And neither should you be.

If you want information, call the doctor's office and ask questions about how long you need to use the test equipment you have at your home now and how long until you can get your results.

Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Enchanter... why would you think that a tech would know more than a physician?? A tech can learn how to hook someone up to a machine in probably a year, maybe two. A doctor goes to medical school for many years and learns (among other things) how to interpret the results of a sleep study.

If the tech "hooked" you up correctly, and I feel sure he did, he did his job! There would be no reason to fire him. He never should have indicated in any manner whether he thought you had SA or not. That was up to your doctor to decide. I remember asking my tech something... she said, "that's up to your doctor to discuss with you." That's what your tech should have said to you.

Edit: Robysue apparently said that the tech knew. What I believe she meant is that if someone has been doing his job for a few years, he starts to pick up clues as to whether a person might have SA or not. That's it... he might have a guess... but only the doctor is able to correctly make that determination.

Okay, so I guess that means I don't have sleep apnea? Or I do? The tech said my oxygen was running low. So therefore, I need more oxygen or a mask right? Obviously if the tech said my oxygen low then he is right, or that means he is wrong. Right?

ems wrote:

palerider wrote:

Krelvin wrote:

Enchanter wrote:Robysue said the tech knows. Doesn't the tech know more than doctor? After all that's why they are specialized techs for sleep apnea. So are you saying that the tech messed up? Can't he be fired?

Never ending...

I don't often disagree with robysue, but her going against the advice of trained psychologists and trying to guess what enchanter needs.... that was a mistake.

PR -- where do trained psychologists come into the picture? Maybe I missed that.

As you already know, robysue was doing everything she could to help enchanter. Most of the folks involved in his threads were trying to do that in various ways. Personally, I don't think anything she said to him was a mistake. If there was a "mistake", it was enchanter not following her advice.

I wasn't trying to quote her though, it's just that I am desperate and frustrated right now. This feels like its NEVER going to get done. EVER. It's been more than 2 months and NOTHING has happened. It's just not going to happen, they are going to forget about me.

Enchanter wrote: they are going to forget about me.

what? you don't badger them incessantly? why are we the only ones that get that?

if you'd spend a tenth the amount of effort pestering your doctor for answers as you do asking the same questions over and over here, you'd get results.