Possible CO2 issue
Possible CO2 issue
Hello ~ Been using my CPAP with humidifier for the past 4 months. During this time, I have been waking up with slamming headaches and nausea and feeling very unrested. Called my CPAP provider and it was her suggestion to contact my sleep doc as she said it might be I am not clearing CO2. Now that scares me. So, last three nights, slept without CPAP machine and woke up with no headache and no nausea and felt very refreshed and energized. I am coming to believe there is something wrong with the CPAP machine.
Now, here is how my night goes. I wake up exactly 5 hours after I go to sleep every single time. I wake up with a slamming headache with nausea. Now the headache and nausea gradually go away as the morning progresses. I usually sleep 8 to 10 hours but can't get to that with the CPAP machine, it's always 5 hours.
Any suggestions?
Thank you.
Jo
Now, here is how my night goes. I wake up exactly 5 hours after I go to sleep every single time. I wake up with a slamming headache with nausea. Now the headache and nausea gradually go away as the morning progresses. I usually sleep 8 to 10 hours but can't get to that with the CPAP machine, it's always 5 hours.
Any suggestions?
Thank you.
Jo
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Machine: AirSense™ 10 CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: The ResMed heated humidifier. I also use the heated coil tubing. |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
That doesn't sound good! What mask are you using? What machine and pressure settings? The mask should have a vent that blows a significant amount of air while the machine is running and you are wearing it. It's important not to block the vent while you sleep.
Jim
Jim
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Machine: ResMed AirSense™ 10 AutoSet™ CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P30i Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear Starter Pack |
Additional Comments: Heated Humidifer, Non-Heated tube, Oscar |
Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset, Swift FX nasal pillows mask
Re: Possible CO2 issue
I have the ResMed CPAP machine, using nasal pillows. My pressure setting is 9 and my humidity is set at 4. I do not use any ramp as I have Asthma and the ramp takes to long and I feel like an asthma attack approaching, so I took off the ramp.
I am a side sleeper, and sleep with a cervical pillow that causes my head to go down deep into the pillow. My sleep doc said for me not to sleep supine.
Does any of this information help?
Jo
I am a side sleeper, and sleep with a cervical pillow that causes my head to go down deep into the pillow. My sleep doc said for me not to sleep supine.
Does any of this information help?
Jo
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Machine: AirSense™ 10 CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: The ResMed heated humidifier. I also use the heated coil tubing. |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
You need a soft cervical collar that will keep your head up, your 'pillows' and CO2 vent free of bedding etc, and your airway more open, not to mention jaws (if not lips) more closed. Google it (the 'soft' is important - many use those here).
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Mask: Ultra Mirage™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Humidifier: IntelliPAP Integrated Heated Humidifier |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
Hi Julie ~ Recommend where to get one of these soft cervical collars?
Jo
Jo
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Machine: AirSense™ 10 CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: The ResMed heated humidifier. I also use the heated coil tubing. |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
Which exact machine, and which exact pillow mask?
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: Possible CO2 issue
I believe a lot of pharmacies that also sell medical devices, etc. (and possibly just regular ones) should have them, but my being in Canada you might get better replies from people down there than me here
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Mask: Ultra Mirage™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Humidifier: IntelliPAP Integrated Heated Humidifier |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
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Machine: ResMed AirSense™ 10 AutoSet™ CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: Fisher & Paykel Vitera Full Face Mask with Headgear (S, M, or L Cushion) |
Additional Comments: Back up is S9 Autoset...... |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
It's unlikely that a cervical collar will make any difference, unless you've got rubber sheets and rubber pillowcases.
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: Possible CO2 issue
C'mon, is that helpful?
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Mask: Ultra Mirage™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Humidifier: IntelliPAP Integrated Heated Humidifier |
Re: Possible CO2 issue
Thanks everyone for your responses
I have had my 5th day of complete restored rest without the CPAP, woke with no morning headache nor nausea and I feel like life is worth living. There also is a big difference in how my muscles feel too. So, there is something going on while I use my CPAP that is making me ill.
The tech suggested I use a full face mask as it might help with the issue of eliminating the CO2 properly. I have tried those in the past. I use Linecare and they are very limited in what they have to offer. I am a side sleeper and when I have used the full facial mask in the past, when I turn over on my side the mask slides open on the side of my face and makes this fluttering noise which wakes me up. These masks are plastic and I am not a good fit for the full facial masks, hence why I went with the nasal pillow mask.
But I have to say,I feel soo much better this morning and instead of climbing back into my recliner to recover from my sleep, which takes half a day, I want to get moving and have fun today
Still waiting to hear from my sleep doc.
Well, thanks for listening.
I have had my 5th day of complete restored rest without the CPAP, woke with no morning headache nor nausea and I feel like life is worth living. There also is a big difference in how my muscles feel too. So, there is something going on while I use my CPAP that is making me ill.
The tech suggested I use a full face mask as it might help with the issue of eliminating the CO2 properly. I have tried those in the past. I use Linecare and they are very limited in what they have to offer. I am a side sleeper and when I have used the full facial mask in the past, when I turn over on my side the mask slides open on the side of my face and makes this fluttering noise which wakes me up. These masks are plastic and I am not a good fit for the full facial masks, hence why I went with the nasal pillow mask.
But I have to say,I feel soo much better this morning and instead of climbing back into my recliner to recover from my sleep, which takes half a day, I want to get moving and have fun today
Still waiting to hear from my sleep doc.
Well, thanks for listening.
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Machine: AirSense™ 10 CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: The ResMed heated humidifier. I also use the heated coil tubing. |
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Re: Possible CO2 issue
If you do that well without CPAP, what in the world caused you to start using CPAP to begin with? Did you have symptoms that caused you to seek a sleep study? What were the results of the sleep study?
Re: Possible CO2 issue
I have had mild chronic obstructive sleep apnea, as shown in numerous sleep studies over the years, with enough apneas that warrant a CPAP machine. I have had this since my teens. I usually end up being non-compliant and now beginning to understand why. My snoring wakes me up.
I need to explore with my sleep doc the issues I am now having and why I feel so ill after using the CPAP machine and why I am having the daily headache with nausea in the morning that takes half a day to recover from and also the relationship to migraine. My sleep doc is also a leading migraine and headache doc. My neurologist just referred me to him today. I was considering having the Botox injections to help with the chronic migraine, now rethinking that.
I need to explore with my sleep doc the issues I am now having and why I feel so ill after using the CPAP machine and why I am having the daily headache with nausea in the morning that takes half a day to recover from and also the relationship to migraine. My sleep doc is also a leading migraine and headache doc. My neurologist just referred me to him today. I was considering having the Botox injections to help with the chronic migraine, now rethinking that.
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Machine: AirSense™ 10 CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: The ResMed heated humidifier. I also use the heated coil tubing. |
- ChicagoGranny
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- Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm
- Location: USA
Re: Possible CO2 issue
Are you snoring when using CPAP? If so, your machine settings are not correct. A properly operating CPAP system prevents snoring. The strength of this forum is in helping people to get their machine settings optimized and their CPAP system working properly. Doctors do not have enough time to spend helping patients with this.
Re: Possible CO2 issue
I can't snore with my nasal pillow on. When I snore I usually wake myself up. I tried to snore on the nasal pillow and I can't get the pressure to work for a snore, so my guess is that I am not snoring while I use my nasal pillow.
Thank you for sticking with me on this issue and trying to help me !! I appreciate this
Thank you for sticking with me on this issue and trying to help me !! I appreciate this
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Machine: AirSense™ 10 CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: The ResMed heated humidifier. I also use the heated coil tubing. |