Pat downs because of CPAP machines

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by Goofproof » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:03 pm

Maybe everyone needs to apply my solution, Stay Home. I have flown as far as 24 hours on one 707, twice not by choice. Now I am content to Stay Home, in my recliner with the remote in hand. If a need to travel I drive, until the government puts up security check points. Jim
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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by BlackSpinner » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:13 pm

Goofproof wrote:Maybe everyone needs to apply my solution, Stay Home. I have flown as far as 24 hours on one 707, twice not by choice. Now I am content to Stay Home, in my recliner with the remote in hand. If a need to travel I drive, until the government puts up security check points. Jim
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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by Amigo » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:42 pm

Will someone please put a bullet through this thread's heart?

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by akcpapguy » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:46 pm

I think I'll start a rumor that bombers are using testicular implants now and than make sure that I rub hand lotion on my CPAP before I fly. Ofcourse this would only be beneficial if all the TSA screeners were female.........so much for that plan!!!
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Post by timbalionguy » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:53 pm

akcpapguy wrote:I think I'll start a rumor that bombers are using testicular implants now and than make sure that I rub hand lotion on my CPAP before I fly. Ofcourse this would only be beneficial if all the TSA screeners were female.........so much for that plan!!!
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Post by Patrick A » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:17 pm

Goofproof wrote:Maybe everyone needs to apply my solution, Stay Home. I have flown as far as 24 hours on one 707, twice not by choice. Now I am content to Stay Home, in my recliner with the remote in hand. If a need to travel I drive, until the government puts up security check points. Jim

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Post by roster » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:50 pm

That is what I saw!!

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by bearded_two » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:57 pm

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by torontoCPAPguy » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:25 pm

Here's what you do friends:
If you happen to live in one of the 47 "shall issue" states you pay a visit to the local PD and get yourself a concealed carry permit for your firearm. Keep a copy of your prescription and your concealed carry permit in the CPAP case and make sure that you have a couple of "LIFE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT - CPAP" tags on the bags exterior in RED along with the exerpt from the air regs that permit CPAP as carry on for domestic flights (without being counted as carryon). When they check you out you should come up as a concealed carry permit holder and I have yet to be patted down, questioned, or whatever. "Have a nice day" and away you go. Especially if you are from a state that runs serious background checks prior to issuing the concealed carry permit. The most I have ever been asked is either "are you carrying" or "where are your firearms". In fact, we have a safe in the rear of our SUV and keep our firearms locked up in there.... when we cross the border we always hand the border guards our passport, our NEXXUS card and our firearms permit, knowing that if they sniff they are going to know anyway. They have never looked at the safe except for one time and on that occasion they just looked at it (it was locked) and said "Have a nice day".

When you are up front and confident in your demeanor, I have found anyway, it is unlikely that you will get hassled. On the other hand, what does it cost at YOUR airport to get patted down by one of the female guards? And are they busy tonight?

I would NEVER EVER check my CPAP gear, nor permit an airline attendant to stow it for me. When it is stowed with my other carry ons I ensure that the stowage door is closed so that some guy with bricks in his carryon doesn't toss it on top and ram the door closed.

Those RED CPAP tags are great. We made up our own and laminated them.

By the way, if you are a rocket hobbyist with a LEUP (Low Explosives Users Permit) I would also show that up front. There's no way you are not going to flash red on the mass spectrometer going or coming from anywhere if you are usingg the same bags as you used for the last rocket launch you were at. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the sirens didn't go off. The LEUP and National Association of Rocketry Member Card would be a good thing to have as well.

BEST of all is the NEXXUS card. At many airports, if you are flying across the border, and you are NEXXUS registered all you need to do is walk up to the eyeball scanner and it spits out a 'get out of jail free' card with which you don't even have to line up and just walk right onto the plane or right out the door. Ditto vehicular traffic lanes. No traffic. $50 and good for something like 5 years. I love it. Everyone in your party has to have the card though and you have to go through a long security check.

Last but not least, as soon as they see your S9 case with the zipper on the FRIGGIN BOTTOM they'll know that you can't possibly be smart enough to pose a threat.

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by Goofproof » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:58 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:
Goofproof wrote:Maybe everyone needs to apply my solution, Stay Home. I have flown as far as 24 hours on one 707, twice not by choice. Now I am content to Stay Home, in my recliner with the remote in hand. If a need to travel I drive, until the government puts up security check points. Jim
Try crossing the North Atlantic in April in a ship and you will be very happy to walk naked onto an airplane.
The people who went a few months ahead of me, took a ship, took them 30 days to get there, but that was 30 days of the year they didn't have to worry about being shot at. I got a chance at 364 days, before the next 707 ride. Jim
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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by Goofproof » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:19 am

torontoCPAPguy wrote:
When you are up front and confident in your demeanor, I have found anyway, it is unlikely that you will get hassled. On the other hand, what does it cost at YOUR airport to get patted down by one of the female guards? And are they busy tonight?

By the way, if you are a rocket hobbyist with a LEUP (Low Explosives Users Permit) I would also show that up front. There's no way you are not going to flash red on the mass spectrometer going or coming from anywhere if you are usingg the same bags as you used for the last rocket launch you were at. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the sirens didn't go off. The LEUP and National Association of Rocketry Member Card would be a good thing to have as well.
I.ve had a few concealed carry permits for Indiana, my gripe after getting them you are only legal in a few states, not all of them, makes it hard to be safe if you leave your state on a trip. Nowdays, if I flew, I'd probably set off the alarms, just from all the ANFO i've used over the years, 40,000 lb a night for 2 years/ I'd go home after a shift with my heart racing from the Nito that soaked in. We need a federal carry permit good anywhere in the U.S. (Then Big Brother could really track us.) Jim
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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by Maple Leaf » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:20 am

Goofproof wrote: but that was 30 days of the year they didn't have to worry about being shot at. Jim
Jim, don't give those crazy nuts anymore ideas!!!

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by LinkC » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:31 pm

wlenz wrote: A general practitioner, or specialist MD's always give you a written prescription...The written prescription belongs to you
I don't believe that is the case. The prescription is a written order for certain items which require them. If is a communication between the Doctor and the entity providing the item. Although most keep a copy in your records, a notation of what was prescribed is all that's necessary in the records. And only the original is legally valid, not a copy.

Where do you find anything indicating the prescription is the patient's property??

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by PST » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:07 pm

LinkC wrote:
wlenz wrote: A general practitioner, or specialist MD's always give you a written prescription...The written prescription belongs to you
I don't believe that is the case. The prescription is a written order for certain items which require them. If is a communication between the Doctor and the entity providing the item. Although most keep a copy in your records, a notation of what was prescribed is all that's necessary in the records. And only the original is legally valid, not a copy.

Where do you find anything indicating the prescription is the patient's property??
I think LinkC is right, more or less. This is one of those things regulated by state law, so it can differ from place to place. Illinois, where I live, formerly required pharmacists to keep the original for a fixed period of years, and it was subject to inspection. Now the law says that electronic copies are sufficient, so long as they meet certain requirements (such as being unalterable). My pharmacy will run me a copy, if I want, but insists on keeping the original.

I don't know if that really settles whose property the prescription is, though. It usually isn't addressed to some specific provider. As far as I'm concerned, it's my property until I use it, and I could take it home and frame it if I wanted. However, the folks with the drugs I want insist that I give it to them, and then it's theirs. The problem comes if I never see the prescription and don't get to select where I want it filled.

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Re: Pat downs because of CPAP machines

Post by dvejr » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:48 am

This is one of those threads that is too painful to read in its entirety, so I may have missed something, but:
TSA finds scary sh*t every day. Especially including guns. Which is, after all, what passenger screening has mostly been about - keeping weapons off of planes.
Explosives are a whole other challenge. Drugs have been smuggled in breast implants for years. I am unaware of any successful use of exploding implants, but now that jockey shorts have been tried unsuccessfully, it is probably only a matter of time.
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