Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

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Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by zoomzoom » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:13 pm

Looks like there is a new device out that was recently FDA cleared to treat mild to moderate OSA.

Their website is here: https://airavant.com/

I think it should be OK to link since it is the manufacturer's site and not a storefront.

Anyway, is it just like the theravent? If so, I tried that before my CPAP and could not even breathe. I felt like I was being suffocated even on the lightest theravent sticker, but this looks like an actual device that you stick up your nose.

I am interested because it may be good for travel purposes to stop me from snoring. I don't want to lug around my machine if I don't have to but also don't want to bother those in the room with me.

At home, of course I would use my machine.

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Re: Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by idlewire » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:32 pm

Seems very similar to something called "Provent", which looks to be a more disposable version of it. Might be cheaper and/or not need a prescription. Never tried it.

What I don't really understand about these types of things is: doesn't the airway collapse again in the pause between exhalation and the next inhalation?

(Just checked, yeah Theravent looks just like Provent. All based on the same principle.)

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Re: Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:37 pm

Ouch...$250 and reusable for up to 90 days. Specific RX is required...unknown how insurance will look at it. Very new to the market.
For mild to moderate OSA.
And yes...appears to work like the Provent/Theravent worked by creating positive back pressure. Won't be easy to exhale through the nose and a person has to use the nose and not the mouth for exhaling or any benefit is lost.
Past history with Provent effectiveness...about a 50% reduction in OA events if you were lucky and could even use them.

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Re: Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by zoomzoom » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:57 pm

i saw that part too (90 day reusable). I was hoping to just keep it in some airtight container for when I'm not using it for the remaining 75 days LOL

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Re: Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by Diotima » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:50 pm

More chinese junk... costs less than a dollar to make and they rip off gullible consumers for pure profit. Opening up your nostrils a tiny bit isn't going to do anything. I severely doubt it requires a prescription and I've seen plenty of similar devices on Amazon saying they were cleared by the "FDA".

See: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/ ... fm?id=1608

These nasal dilators advertised as "FDA cleared" are in fact lying. The FDA exempts them. So I guess you could say they were "cleared".
FDA has exempted almost all class I devices (with the exception of Reserved Devices from the premarket notification requirement, including those devices that were exempted by final regulation published in the Federal Registers of December 7, 1994, and January 16, 1996. Some 510(k) exemptions annotated with "\#\" are with certain limitations as noted in the footnotes. It is important to confirm the exempt status and any limitations that apply with 21 CFR Parts 862-892. Limitations of device exemptions are covered under 21 CFR xxx.9, where xxx refers to Parts 862-892.
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/ ... cd/315.cfm

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Re: Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by Diotima » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:01 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:37 pm
Ouch...$250 and reusable for up to 90 days. Specific RX is required...unknown how insurance will look at it. Very new to the market.
For mild to moderate OSA.
And yes...appears to work like the Provent/Theravent worked by creating positive back pressure. Won't be easy to exhale through the nose and a person has to use the nose and not the mouth for exhaling or any benefit is lost.
Past history with Provent effectiveness...about a 50% reduction in OA events if you were lucky and could even use them.
Nasal dilators don't require a rx they are class I medical devices. There are hundreds of variations of this type of device on Amazon.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/ ... fm?id=1608

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Re: Has anyone heard of Bongo RX? Does it work?

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:10 pm

Diotima wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:01 pm
Nasal dilators don't require a rx they are class I medical devices. There are hundreds of variations of this type of device on Amazon.
These aren't nasal dilators and don't work like those nasal dilators you are talking about.

Supposedly this product works by creating a PEEP back pressure to hold the airway open. It's not hogwash...it's proven technology up to a point. Provent/Theravent works the same way. They are NOT dilators...they do absolutely nothing inside the nose.
Provent also required a RX back when it was available.

You might want to read up on using PEEP pressure to treat OSA.

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