Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

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Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by reinvigorated » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:15 pm

Has anyone tried expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea?

This study got me interested:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28552790

My AHI was 0.4 in the sleep study but I had a total of 17 arousals per hour. I'm wondering if this might help me reduce the number of arousals but I suspect that they might be caused by something else.

Has anyone actually tried this? Have you seen results?

Thank you!

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:17 pm

reinvigorated wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:15 pm
expiratory muscle strength training (EMST)
CPAP provides EMST on every breath all night long.

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by nee » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:55 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:17 pm
reinvigorated wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:15 pm
expiratory muscle strength training (EMST)
CPAP provides EMST on every breath all night long.
Haha! True.

There's also myofunctional therapy which I'm working on.

Here's a meta-analysis on it from Stanford: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25348130. "Current literature demonstrates that myofunctional therapy decreases apnea-hypopnea index by approximately 50% in adults and 62% in children."

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:09 pm

nee wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:55 pm
myofunctional therapy which I'm working on
What about cardio training, especially interval training? (Not that I am young enough to do interval training. ;) )

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by reinvigorated » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:13 pm

I was thinking of using this instead of CPAP, not in addition to CPAP. :)

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:24 pm

reinvigorated wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:13 pm
I was thinking of using this instead of CPAP, not in addition to CPAP. :)
Yeah, we all want a magic wand to wave when we lie down at night. :lol:

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by reinvigorated » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:29 pm

nee wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:55 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:17 pm
reinvigorated wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:15 pm
expiratory muscle strength training (EMST)
CPAP provides EMST on every breath all night long.
Haha! True.

There's also myofunctional therapy which I'm working on.

Here's a meta-analysis on it from Stanford: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25348130. "Current literature demonstrates that myofunctional therapy decreases apnea-hypopnea index by approximately 50% in adults and 62% in children."
So I wanted to find some videos on myofunctional therapy on Youtube and went into a rabbit whole watching videos on that but also related topics, such as mewing and orthotropics (never heard about these things before!). For example, this video got my attention first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbzT00Cyq-g

These videos seem to mostly focus on aesthetics but I wonder how beneficial this approach might be from UARS or apnea perspective.

I’m really curious if anyone has tried that and seen significant progress as this seems to require a lot of effort and time.

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Re: Expiratory muscle strength training (EMST) for UARS or mild sleep apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:23 pm

If wishes were horses . . . (I would ask for clydesdales.)

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