AirSense™ 10 AutoSet For Her -- info?

According to the ResMed web site

Women and men with sleep apnea exhibit different characteristics and face different challenges.1,2 That’s why we created the AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her – the first sleep apnea therapy device designed to provide female-specific therapy.

Now reading the S9 For Her page it looks like that is just the regular S9 painted pink, but the S10 has different insides as well as out. Does anyone have any information about this machine? Is it really better and worth pursuing, a gimmick, or is it just so bleeding-edge-brand-new that nobody knows yet?

We don't know all that much about the "new for women" algorithm in apap mode...all we know is it's new and might help someone and for that reason I would lean towards the new AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her....it's available just in case and better to have something and not need it than to maybe need it and not have it.
Personally I think that if it is so great...why limit it to the female population. Females aren't the only ones to maybe have special issues.

So...yes...in the S9 models...the only difference is the color. Either color has the same modes of operation in the AutoSet models..CPAP and Auto (apap).

In the AirSense 10 Autosets the for Her version has 3 modes of operation and the regular one only has the usual 2 modes (CPAP and Auto). I might come in handy and it might not but someone the other day said they just got the AirSense and had used the S9 in the past and said the AirSense is even more quiet than their S9...so maybe they did make these a little more quiet which I find amazing because the S9s I have tried are virtually silent anyway.

Some recent discussion here might be helpful to you
viewtopic/t99843/Resmed-Airsense-10-ann ... 81814.html

I think if I was wanting a Resmed apap....I would want the new AirSense for Her model...even if I was guy.

Our host's description says:

"The AirSense™ 10 AutoSet for Her CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier is the first CPAP machine truly designed for women on the outside AND inside. An advanced algorithm designed for female breathing patterns helps make therapy as comfortable and effective as possible. "

Which suggests different "programming" for the two sexes.

May be more than just color, then?

englandsf wrote:Which suggests different "programming" for the two sexes.

May be more than just color, then?

The AirSense Auto Set for Her has 2 separate APAP modes available....one is the regular apap mode that everyone with the S9 Autoset has...and the other mode is the new "for her" apap algorithm...so the new AirSense AutoSet for Her is like 3 machines in one where the S9 AutoSet is like 2 machines in one. Then AirSense that isn't the for Her Autoset...only has the same APAP mode as the S9.

The AirSense A10 AutoSet for Her has
CPAP mode
Regular APAP mode with regular S9 algorithm
new for her APAP mode with different algorithm

The "regular" AirSense A10 AutoSet is pretty much the same as the S9 AutoSet on the inside in terms of what it does.

Got it - but I like the white! And I'm a guy. Damn!

englandsf wrote:Our host's description says:

"The AirSense™ 10 AutoSet for Her CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier is the first CPAP machine truly designed for women on the outside AND inside. An advanced algorithm designed for female breathing patterns helps make therapy as comfortable and effective as possible. "

Which suggests different "programming" for the two sexes.

May be more than just color, then?

Just proves we're wired differently

Looking on cpap.com, it looks like the 2-mode S10 and the 3-mode ("For Her") aren't different in price, so I'm thinking Pugsy is right -- even if you are a guy why not have the other option? Bodies are different, and I bet there are some guys out there who would do better on the "Her" algorithm, and that there are plenty of woman who do better on the "Him" settings. (And there are probably already some guys going to bed in pink masks because they fit them better, and you can't tell what color they are when you are asleep!) And given that this new machine is not pink, we can speculate that they might be broadening the base a bit.

I suppose we really won't know for awhile how the "Her" algorithm works. Maybe 99% of the people who get the machine end up running it in the "Him" mode -- sometimes things which are great ideas in theory but end up not really working in practice. Or maybe it ends up being a great advance. I guess the real answer to my question is "we don't know yet."

Yep, we just don't know yet how big of a difference this newer "gentler" algorithm is going to make on anyone...male or female.
Worth checking out though..can't hurt to have a little different form of ammunition in our war against sleep apnea. Never know when something different (even if only slightly different) might make a big difference in how we feel or sleep and that's the number one goal IMHO...sleeping good and feeling good.

From the new clinician's manual:

"AutoSet for Her mode
AutoSet for Her mode is based on key aspects of ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm and delivers
therapeutic responses tailored to the characteristics of female OSA patients.
The AutoSet for Her is similar to ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm with the following modifications:
 Reduced rate of pressure increments designed to help prevent arousals.
 Slower pressure decays.
 Treats apneas up to 12 cm H2O and continues to respond to flow limitation and snore up to
20 cm H2O.
 Minimum pressure (Min. Pressure) that adjusts according to the frequency of apneas:
If two apneas occur within a minute, the pressure reached in response to the second apnea will
become the new minimum treatment pressure until the next treatment session."
(copied without permission--for entertainment purposes only)

chunkyfrog wrote:From the new clinician's manual:

(copied without permission--for entertainment purposes only)

now you just need a 'for frog' version in green, with bugs on.

I can get duck tape in green; but I like white just fine.

OK so you have an APAP for her! What happens if you are a guy but a little sissy? I have all male feathers! And lots of them! But what about some other guys that don’t have as many feathers as me? Should they buy the “for her”?

Pesser wrote:OK so you have an APAP for her! What happens if you are a guy but a little sissy? I have all male feathers! And lots of them! But what about some other guys that don’t have as many feathers as me? Should they buy the “for her”?

I figure that the more options you can give yourself for the future, the better

Pesser wrote:OK so you have an APAP for her! What happens if you are a guy but a little sissy? I have all male feathers! And lots of them! But what about some other guys that don’t have as many feathers as me? Should they buy the “for her”?

Well, they have the girly skins to put on S9 CPAP machines.

Real men just skin their own CPAP machines, but they use duct tape. Or, spray paint it in camo colors.

From a couple months ago:

http://www.resmed.com/content/dam/resme ... S_2014.pdf

Study Of A Novel Automatic Positive Airway Pressure Algorithm For The Treatment Of Obstructive Sleep Apnea In Women, [Publication Number: A5621]

N. McArdle, MD, S. King, BApp SCc, K. Shepherd, BSc, D. Ramanan, BSc, S. Ketheeswaran, BBiomed Sc, P. Bateman, RN, A. Wimms, M.Sc.Med, J. Armitstead, PhD, G. Richards, PhD, D.
Hillman, MBBS, P.R. Eastwood, PhD

Introduction:
Auto-adjusting CPAP (APAP) is well accepted as a treatment for obstructive sleep apnea. A novel
algorithm has been developed using the same principles as the AutoSet (ResMed, San Diego CA), but
which aims to address female-specific obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) characteristics, such as shorter
events1, predominantly REM-based OSA2, and increased flow limitation3. The new female-specific
algorithm (fAPAP) has increased sensitivity to flow limitation, an adaptive minimum pressure, optimized
response gain and is driven predominantly by flow limitation and snoring rather than apneas.

Methods:
A prospective, randomized, double-blind, cross-over, non-inferiority trial of the effect of fAPAP and
standard APAP (S9 AutoSet) on respiratory events over 2 nights during attended polysomnography
(PSG). Population: Female subjects with OSA (PSG-confirmed apnea/hypopnea index (AHI) >5) on
therapy with positive airway pressure ≥ 1 month. Outcomes: AHI (AASM 2012 criteria), 4% oxygen
desaturation index (ODI), sleep parameters, and subjective ratings. High resolution flow data were
logged from both devices to a PSG system (Compumedics, Abbotsford Australia), and were then
manually scored by a blinded scorer. A questionnaire (Likert scale) was used to assess breathing
comfort, sleep latency, sleep disturbance, and feeling of refreshing sleep.

Results:(See table)
20 patients were studied with mean (SD) diagnostic AHI of 19.1±8.7 events/hr and body mass index of
38.5±7.5 kg/m2.
There were no statistical differences between the algorithms for AHI and ODI or number of Respiratory
Effort Related Arousals (RERAs). The proportion of flow limited breaths was significantly lower with the
fAPAP algorithm. Mean mask pressure tended to be less with the fAPAP algorithm, but this did not
reach statistical significance. Sleep efficiency (84.2% vs 84.1%), % slow wave sleep (22.4% vs 21.5%),
and % rapid eye movement (REM) sleep (16.6% vs 15.4%) were similar between fAPAP and AutoSet
algorithms, respectively. All other sleep parameters, as well as subjective ratings, were equivalent
between the two algorithms.

Conclusions:
The fAPAP and AutoSet algorithms demonstrated equivalent treatment of AHI and ODI in female OSA
subjects over the course of a single night’s therapy. fAPAP significantly improved treatment of flow
limitation in this population and tended to utilize lower pressures over the course of the night.