Manufacturers' Leak Rates for Masks
Manufacturers' Leak Rates for Masks
Good afternoon! I recall reading a chart that had the acceptable leak rates for masks (FFM and nasal masks) here a couple of months ago and now can't find it. I am specifically interested in the Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask. My DME gave me one to try instead of the F&P Simplus. She said that the leak rate on the Simplus is supposed to be 24 or less. Thanks for your help.
Re: Manufacturers' Leak Rates for Masks
google for the users manual for the mask, all masks (that I've seen) have a chart or table for their built in vent rates.jaycee2 wrote:Good afternoon! I recall reading a chart that had the acceptable leak rates for masks (FFM and nasal masks) here a couple of months ago and now can't find it. I am specifically interested in the Resmed Mirage FX Nasal Mask. My DME gave me one to try instead of the F&P Simplus. She said that the leak rate on the Simplus is supposed to be 24 or less. Thanks for your help.
that said, most mosts vent somewhere around 20lpm @4cm and somewhere around 50lpm@20cm. (usually somewhere between 45-55lpm at the top end.)
leak/vent is pressure dependent. resmed machines want to have an *excess* leak of 24lpm over the vent rate, or less.
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Fisher-Paykel Simplus has a leak rate of about 23 lpm at 4 cm H2O.
Here is a link to the user guide.
http://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFile ... 0282c673f3
Here is a link to the user guide.
http://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFile ... 0282c673f3
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Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
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Thanks. I see the chart in the back of the Resmed Mirage FX nasal mask booklet. It looks like it's 19L/min. at 4 cmH2O and 40 L/min at 16 cm H2O. And Resmed machines want to have an *excess* leak of 24 L/min over the vent rate, or less. I think that was the number I was looking for.
The link for the Simplus doesn't work unfortunately but I'll search online.
If anyone has the chart that would be great too.
The link for the Simplus doesn't work unfortunately but I'll search online.
If anyone has the chart that would be great too.
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The link is to a .PDF file. If you don't have Acrobat reader installed that might account for issues in following the link.The link for the Simplus doesn't work unfortunately but I'll search online.
When looking for information about a particular mask, I search using the name of the mask followed by the words "guide" and "PDF". That generally gets me to a user guide in .PDF format.
Try going to http://www.fphcare.com and then navigating within their site.
_________________
Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
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Normally the leak rate chart (graph) is included in the package with each new mask or on the mfg website as indicated above.jaycee2 wrote:If anyone has the chart that would be great too.
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Is this what you were asking for? (Google is great!)
https://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFil ... 0282c673f3
https://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFil ... 0282c673f3
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Mask: Nuance & Nuance Pro Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Gel Nasal Pillows |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: Also use Airfit N10, P10, and Sleepweaver Advance masks; Sleepyhead tester; PRS1 Auto as backup; CMS 50E pulse ox, ZEO; humidity 3.0 no heat |
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Thanks IreneN. JDS74 suggested the same thing. If it's a PDF file, I open PDF files all the time but my computer doesn't want to open that link. Very strange but there you have it.IreneN wrote:Is this what you were asking for? (Google is great!)
https://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFil ... 0282c673f3
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it's a very big, very detailed file, in all the languages... you might need to give it some time.jaycee2 wrote:Thanks IreneN. JDS74 suggested the same thing. If it's a PDF file, I open PDF files all the time but my computer doesn't want to open that link. Very strange but there you have it.IreneN wrote:Is this what you were asking for? (Google is great!)
https://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFil ... 0282c673f3
however, what you want is:
cm lpm
4 22
5 25
7 29
9 33
11 13
13 40
15 43
17 46
19 49
21 52
23 54
25 57
again, quite in line with my generalization of about 20-50lpm from 4-20cm
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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Sorry about that... I have a very fast internet connection, forgetting about those less fortunate. And just read too fast and missed JDS74's post.palerider wrote:it's a very big, very detailed file, in all the languages... you might need to give it some time.jaycee2 wrote:Thanks IreneN. JDS74 suggested the same thing. If it's a PDF file, I open PDF files all the time but my computer doesn't want to open that link. Very strange but there you have it.IreneN wrote:Is this what you were asking for? (Google is great!)
https://www.fphcare.com/CMSPages/GetFil ... 0282c673f3
however, what you want is:
cm lpm
4 22
5 25
7 29
9 33
11 13
13 40
15 43
17 46
19 49
21 52
23 54
25 57
again, quite in line with my generalization of about 20-50lpm from 4-20cm
And in the spirit of repetition today...I like graphics.

_________________
Mask: Nuance & Nuance Pro Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Gel Nasal Pillows |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: Also use Airfit N10, P10, and Sleepweaver Advance masks; Sleepyhead tester; PRS1 Auto as backup; CMS 50E pulse ox, ZEO; humidity 3.0 no heat |
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oh, fine, make me look lameIreneN wrote:Sorry about that... I have a very fast internet connection, forgetting about those less fortunate. And just read too fast and missed JDS74's post.palerider wrote:it's a very big, very detailed file, in all the languages... you might need to give it some time.jaycee2 wrote:Thanks IreneN. JDS74 suggested the same thing. If it's a PDF file, I open PDF files all the time but my computer doesn't want to open that link. Very strange but there you have it.IreneN wrote:Is this what you were asking for? (Google is great!)
again, quite in line with my generalization of about 20-50lpm from 4-20cm
And in the spirit of repetition today...I like graphics.
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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Nah, just geekypalerider wrote: oh, fine, make me look lame
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Mask: Nuance & Nuance Pro Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Gel Nasal Pillows |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: Also use Airfit N10, P10, and Sleepweaver Advance masks; Sleepyhead tester; PRS1 Auto as backup; CMS 50E pulse ox, ZEO; humidity 3.0 no heat |
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pfft, I'm not really sure how you could make me look geekier than I already amIreneN wrote:Nah, just geekypalerider wrote: oh, fine, make me look lame
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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Exactly!palerider wrote: pfft, I'm not really sure how you could make me look geekier than I already am
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Mask: Nuance & Nuance Pro Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Gel Nasal Pillows |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: Also use Airfit N10, P10, and Sleepweaver Advance masks; Sleepyhead tester; PRS1 Auto as backup; CMS 50E pulse ox, ZEO; humidity 3.0 no heat |
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why, I oughta *shakes fist*IreneN wrote:Exactly!palerider wrote: pfft, I'm not really sure how you could make me look geekier than I already am
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.