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Neti pot question

Post by curems » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:04 pm

I just started using a neti pot a week ago when recommended by a doctor for a bad recurring cold & bronchitis (2x/day followed by my Nasacort). It was not something I wanted to do but I did anyway and found it helpful. Problem is the last couple nights I've used it a couple hours before going to bed and within a few minutes of going to bed, my nose started running profusely into my mask and I also had solution running down the back of my throat. I would understand if I went to bed immediately after using the neti pot but not after a couple hours.

Also, I have a history of some recent nosebleeds from my left nostril with 2 cauterizations earlier this year. Last night I had just one small spot of blood from my right nostril. My nose felt particularly dry today so I didn't use the neti pot and used only saline spray for moisture.

I'll discuss with the doc next week but wondered if anyone here has any insight.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by Michelle-OH » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:16 pm

Do you bend over at the waist and blow your nose after? I can remember having drainage occasionally quite a while after using the neti pot, but it's been years since I've used one.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by curems » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:23 pm

Michelle-OH wrote:Do you bend over at the waist and blow your nose after? I can remember having drainage occasionally quite a while after using the neti pot, but it's been years since I've used one.
Yes, I do. I even sat with my head bent over before going to bed last night because it had started already. Thought it was done but started again almost as soon as I hit the pillow.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by Michelle-OH » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:25 pm

I don't have any other suggestions, sorry. Hope you find it helps you.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by curems » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:32 pm

Michelle-OH wrote:I don't have any other suggestions, sorry. Hope you find it helps you.
Thanks Michelle. I do have a follow up with the doc on Monday. Just thought I'd see if anyone here has had the experience. All will be well!

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Re: Neti pot question

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curems wrote:
Michelle-OH wrote:Do you bend over at the waist and blow your nose after? I can remember having drainage occasionally quite a while after using the neti pot, but it's been years since I've used one.
Yes, I do. I even sat with my head bent over before going to bed last night because it had started already. Thought it was done but started again almost as soon as I hit the pillow.
depending on what method you use to hose out your sinuses, water can pool in some of them. you have to tip your head to the side.
I remember the first time I used one of the squeeze bottles... hours later, I bent over and turned my head to the side to read something on a low piece of equipment... and water ran out of my nose. it'd been sloshing around in my sinuses.

using the regular neti pot, which requires you to turn your head to the side never gave me that effect.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by curems » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:59 am

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curems wrote:
Michelle-OH wrote:Do you bend over at the waist and blow your nose after? I can remember having drainage occasionally quite a while after using the neti pot, but it's been years since I've used one.
Yes, I do. I even sat with my head bent over before going to bed last night because it had started already. Thought it was done but started again almost as soon as I hit the pillow.
depending on what method you use to hose out your sinuses, water can pool in some of them. you have to tip your head to the side.
I remember the first time I used one of the squeeze bottles... hours later, I bent over and turned my head to the side to read something on a low piece of equipment... and water ran out of my nose. it'd been sloshing around in my sinuses.

using the regular neti pot, which requires you to turn your head to the side never gave me that effect.
Thanks palerider. I have been using a regular neti pot (made me squeamish to even try but the idea of using a squeeze bottle was even worse!) I do turn my head to the side and bend over the sink. The first few times I would have the occasional water dripping out my nose in the ten or fifteen minutes afterward but that was while I was upright. These last couple of times, it was only when I laid down that I had an absolute gush. Probably just another of my (not so cute) idiosyncrasies.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:40 am

curems wrote:Probably just another of my (not so cute) idiosyncrasies.
Have you had a Nasal Endoscopy & Laryngoscopy (http://www.tampaent.com/treatments-nasa ... el-fl.html)?

Anyone who has problems like yours should have the exam. It's easy and just takes a minute or two.

I've got some drainage this morning and will do a Neti rinse followed by Nasacort. I appreciate Neti rinses.
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Re: Neti pot question

Post by curems » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:33 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
curems wrote:Probably just another of my (not so cute) idiosyncrasies.
Have you had a Nasal Endoscopy & Laryngoscopy (http://www.tampaent.com/treatments-nasa ... el-fl.html)?

Anyone who has problems like yours should have the exam. It's easy and just takes a minute or two.

I've got some drainage this morning and will do a Neti rinse followed by Nasacort. I appreciate Neti rinses.
Thanks CG! I've had a couple of Laryngoscopies (2 different ENTs), most recent one was a little over a month ago to diagnose vocal cord dysfunction. Neither doc seemed to think I had any sinus problems to be concerned about. I also had recent allergy testing and had numerous environmental allergies (though not enough to need shots). I have silent reflux and despite 60 mg. prilosec daily for a couple months, the ENT still saw evidence of reflux. Took a month to get a GI appt and then had to cancel because of bronchitis so not rescheduled until Feb! While it's helpful to have all these different docs with different specialties who are more expert in their fields, it's also a bit more complicated to have to negotiate between all of them! Glad I can go to my primary and discuss with her when to see a specialist and which one.

I do find the neti rinse to be helpful but got a little concerned with the dryness and the one little spot of blood (even though I think it wasn't really anything). Might it be helpful to use the neti pot followed by saline spray for moisture? (I usually only use the Nasacort at night, it was prescribed 2x a day for 5 days to deal with this acute issue.)

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:13 am

curems wrote:Might it be helpful to use the neti pot followed by saline spray for moisture?
Most of the saline sprays have the same salt content as a properly mixed neti rinse. So no harm to add a saline spray, but probably not much benefit either. Maybe look for a nasal lubricant for the dryness. I will look to see what good lubricant I used in the past.
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Re: Neti pot question

Post by curems » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:18 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Most of the saline sprays have the same salt content as a properly mixed neti rinse. So no harm to add a saline spray, but probably not much benefit either. Maybe look for a nasal lubricant for the dryness. I will look to see what good lubricant I used in the past.
It did seem odd to me that I had been prescribed saline spray for moisture but the neti rinse was also salt and seemed to dry out my nose. I do have some Ayr Nasal Gel Swabs I can try for moisture.

I was hesitant to use the neti pot and didn't use it yesterday (had met the 5 day prescribed by the doc) but was feeling stuffy today and decided to try it since it does seem to help (in five days I came to really appreciate it!) I did see a couple of small traces of brownish red in my otherwise clear mucus but I am also being treated for bronchitis and have very reactive airways so I suspect that may simply be a part of that. My coughing is almost never productive and I am taking codeine to reduce the coughing and help ease the inflamation.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by englandsf » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:21 pm

curems wrote:I just started using a neti pot a week ago when recommended by a doctor for a bad recurring cold & bronchitis (2x/day followed by my Nasacort). It was not something I wanted to do but I did anyway and found it helpful. Problem is the last couple nights I've used it a couple hours before going to bed and within a few minutes of going to bed, my nose started running profusely into my mask and I also had solution running down the back of my throat. I would understand if I went to bed immediately after using the neti pot but not after a couple hours.

Also, I have a history of some recent nosebleeds from my left nostril with 2 cauterizations earlier this year. Last night I had just one small spot of blood from my right nostril. My nose felt particularly dry today so I didn't use the neti pot and used only saline spray for moisture.

I'll discuss with the doc next week but wondered if anyone here has any insight.
Try your daily rinse earlier in the day. I use a Water Pik with an adapter and it works really well with NeilMed sachets.

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by R1200ST » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:05 pm

I have used a neti nose rinse for a couple years now. I use the squeeze bottle with the saline mix that comes in the packs. I warm up the water to just a tad bit over room temp.

I have significant issues with my sinuses and septum. Using the squeeze bottle forces the fluid through and cleans and rinses me out. I stand over the sink, with my head down and chin tilted to you chest, turn my head left and right a couple times, and stand up, to get the water out, that is trapped inside the sinus cavities. I also blow my nose, gently, which pushes the rest out.

I have, on occasion, had a pocket of water come out at unusual times. I just think that it gets trapped for whatever reason. I suggest you mimic the head position as if you were laying down to sleep to see if the water comes out again, after your next rinse. If it does, then you might just have a swollen sinus that is capturing the water, which is not unusual, or like someone else said, get it scoped to check it out.

Good luck. Neti rinses have, for me, been a God send in controlling my rhinitis and sinusitis. Not 100% effective, but keeps me off most of the medications until Cedar fever season (which kicks off right now).

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by curems » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:25 pm

R1200ST wrote:I have used a neti nose rinse for a couple years now. I use the squeeze bottle with the saline mix that comes in the packs. I warm up the water to just a tad bit over room temp.

I have significant issues with my sinuses and septum. Using the squeeze bottle forces the fluid through and cleans and rinses me out. I stand over the sink, with my head down and chin tilted to you chest, turn my head left and right a couple times, and stand up, to get the water out, that is trapped inside the sinus cavities. I also blow my nose, gently, which pushes the rest out.

I have, on occasion, had a pocket of water come out at unusual times. I just think that it gets trapped for whatever reason. I suggest you mimic the head position as if you were laying down to sleep to see if the water comes out again, after your next rinse. If it does, then you might just have a swollen sinus that is capturing the water, which is not unusual, or like someone else said, get it scoped to check it out.

Good luck. Neti rinses have, for me, been a God send in controlling my rhinitis and sinusitis. Not 100% effective, but keeps me off most of the medications until Cedar fever season (which kicks off right now).

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I use the pot with the included mix packets. I like the idea of relying on gravity and not using any force at all, particularly with paradoxical vocal cord motion and difficulty regulating my breathing while awake. I do let the water flow out and gently blow my nose until I get all fluid out that I can, but I'll try laying down after that and see what happens.

I expect the gastro enterologist may want to do an endoscopy next month and I've had a little difficulty with the larygoscopies so I don't really want to have add one more unless it's really necessary!

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Re: Neti pot question

Post by SleepyToo2 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:45 pm

I find laying down on one side after the other cleans out the remaining saline for me. Different techniques may work for others.

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