Having too many events? Please help!!

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Having too many events? Please help!!

Post by Gcfcos » Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:19 pm

just below, thanks in advance for any help

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by Cardsfan » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:10 pm

Looking at Snore and Flow limits graphs, they both show too much activity. I'd raise the pressure to 14 and see what that does.
Try to stay off your back when sleeping.
Also, your leaks need fixing.

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Post by palerider » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:13 pm

Cardsfan wrote:Looking at Snore and Flow limits graphs, they both show too much activity. I'd raise the pressure to 14 and see what that does.
Try to stay off your back when sleeping.
really? the huge amounts of obstructives and hypopneas don't warrant a comment?????

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by Cardsfan » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:16 pm

Well, that AHI of 22 was obvious the obstructions are too high.

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by palerider » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:20 pm

Gcfcos wrote:just below, thanks in advance for any help
Ok, 'couple things, to make it simpler for next time, all you need to do is post one (maybe two) screenshots, here's a guide of what we need:
https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead/shorganize there's three pages, how to organize the page, how to take a screenshot the easy way, and how to post it on imgur the best looking way.

your chart shows the need for an autosetting machine, like the elite, you're doing fine part of the night, then you go into REM, or you roll on to your back, and your pressure needs go up.

you can see where things are fine, then you get those clusters of light and dark blue marks, Obstrucive Apneas and Hypopneas. they're quite bad, in groups, but it looks like you're doing pretty well between them.

your leaks appear to be pretty well controlled, having an auto machine would help with that, because you won't be at the higher pressures all the time.

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by Gcfcos » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:46 pm

thanks so much for your replys guys. i contacted the sleep clinic today regarding my report from the machine overnight saying my events were too high, the clinician suggested turning the machine to 14cm which they have done so well see how that goes tonight. mind you ive been struggling with mask leaks since they turned it up to 12cm so not sure how its gonna go but ill try again. i use a home made mask liner now and that seems to be helping. once again thanks for all your help

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Post by Julie » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:59 pm

And if your head routinely falls forward on your chest, cutting off your airway to a large extent, try a soft cervical collar to help keep it up, which also helps keep your jaw, if not lips, closed.

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by BlackSpinner » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:32 pm

Julie wrote:And if your head routinely falls forward on your chest, cutting off your airway to a large extent, try a soft cervical collar to help keep it up, which also helps keep your jaw, if not lips, closed.
He wears a full face mask so he doesn't have to worry about "loose lips" However my leaks with a FFM often come because my jaw falls down and breaks the seal, which is the major reason I never sleep on my back. I also roll up a towel and stick it in my pillow case which helps keep my neck & jaw in a right position.

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by Mudrock63 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:07 pm

Don't panic. This is your very first setting adjustment. Since you've been reading here for a while, you know the docs rarely prescribe the ideal setting on the first try. Often far from it. Try 14, as has been suggested, and let's see what that does for you. I honestly don't know why they even sell non-auto machines. Seems like a throw back. Or more likely, a throw away. LOL.

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Post by kteague » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:54 pm

BlackSpinner wrote: ...my leaks with a FFM often come because my jaw falls down and breaks the seal, which is the major reason I never sleep on my back. I also roll up a towel and stick it in my pillow case which helps keep my neck & jaw in a right position.
I'm picturing what I think you are describing, but sure would appreciate a detailed description or diagram including towel size and placement. Sometimes the most basic of self-help tips can make a huge difference, and this feels like one of those. Jaw drop is such a widespread problem. Thanks for mentioning this!

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by Gcfcos » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:56 pm

Mudrock63 wrote:Don't panic. This is your very first setting adjustment. Since you've been reading here for a while, you know the docs rarely prescribe the ideal setting on the first try. Often far from it. Try 14, as has been suggested, and let's see what that does for you. I honestly don't know why they even sell non-auto machines. Seems like a throw back. Or more likely, a throw away. LOL.
thanks for your reply. i have had a pressure adjustment before from 10cm to 12cm as i was waking up choking for breath every hour of the night. after they turned it up to 12cm i got from an average of 2.5 to 3.5 hours sleep a night to 7.5 to 8.5 hours sleep a night with minimal events but this only lasted a couple of days and started suffering from major mask leak which we have only just helped by using a home made mask liner. but now ive gone from 2.5 to 4.5 events per night up to low to high 20s. so there suggestion is turning it up to 14cm but im having trouble with the mask sealing on 12cm. ill see how i get on tonight as im just off to bed now. thanks again guys

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Re: my sleepyhead results at last, not good, please help!!

Post by BlackSpinner » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:08 pm

kteague wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote: ...my leaks with a FFM often come because my jaw falls down and breaks the seal, which is the major reason I never sleep on my back. I also roll up a towel and stick it in my pillow case which helps keep my neck & jaw in a right position.
I'm picturing what I think you are describing, but sure would appreciate a detailed description or diagram including towel size and placement. Sometimes the most basic of self-help tips can make a huge difference, and this feels like one of those. Jaw drop is such a widespread problem. Thanks for mentioning this!
I used to have one of those foam pillows with neck support and I really liked them. Now they make them with memory foam and then the supports disappear as it "adjusts " to your shape. All wrong! The roll is supposed to support because your muscles are the problem. I wasn't able to find a none memory foam pillow so I roll up a hand towel and stick it in the pillow case where my neck will be. It provides firm support for my neck and by careful positioning of my head at the edge of the pillow it also help with a bit a support for my jaw.

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Post by Gcfcos » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:35 pm

Got called into the sleep clinic this afternoon as they were worried about the results they were getting from my machine. They gave me a nose mask with a chin strap. Tried it this evening, couldn't last more than a minute and my nose would feel like it blocked and was gasping for air from my mouth, my partner phones them and they tell us I'm a mouth breather!!?? I had to leave work half day and spent 3 hours total driving to get there and back. Complete waste of time. Just tried the full face mask again with the top strap pulled onto my forehead and used the stocking chin strap from the nose mask to
Pull the face mask on better and didn't seem to have any leaks. Will try again tonight. I'm at my whits end. Also the only sleep monitoring I've ever had from them and to get the diagnosis of sleep apnea was with an oxymeter on my finger for one night. They've asked me to use it again this evening

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Post by Gcfcos » Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:00 am

Worked a way out last night of using the mask with an extra strap to stop all leaks and it worked so that's good news, had 7.5 hours sleep and was happy untill I looked at my sleep report from my machine saying I had 24 events per hour. I've also had a warning email sent from resmed saying I'm having too many events. Spoke to the clinician and they reckon that's OK as I only had 1.1 obstructive sleep apneas and the rest are just apneas. Dosent make sense to me that explanation? So frustrated now

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