Dust inside the machine.

Mist_ynight · Post by **Mist_ynight** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:35 pm

I'm pretty sure there's dust build up inside my machine. I lost the filter ages ago and never replaced it. Just one of those things that slipped my mind. I've been having terrible allergies for months. I blamed it on the huge forest fire that ravaged my area, thinking it had something to do with the pollen in the air. Now that's it's cold I started suspecting my machine was causing it. I stopped using it for a week and my allergies totally went away. Obviously not using it made me exhausted. I have twin toddlers so I can't continue not wearing it and not sleeping. I started wearing it again 2 days ago and now I'm miserable again! I can't afford a new machine. Is there any way to clean the inside? Help please!

Gasper62 · Post by **Gasper62** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:49 pm

I suggest that you replace the missing filter ASAP, and for the next year, also utilize an inline filter. I suspect that whatever may have accumulated inside the machine will dislodge within a years time, or, maybe it'll never come loose. >> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/Respir ... -pack.html

Mist_ynight · Post by **Mist_ynight** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:53 pm

Gasper62 wrote:I suggest that you replace the missing filter ASAP, and for the next year, also utilize an inline filter. I suspect that whatever may have accumulated inside the machine will dislodge within a years time, or, maybe it'll never come loose. >> https://www.cpap.com/productpage/Respir ... -pack.html

I didn't know there was a filter for the hose! Thank you! I'll have to see if my local shop has that in stock.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:49 am

Mist_ynight wrote:I didn't know there was a filter for the hose! Thank you! I'll have to see if my local shop has that in stock.

Keep in mind that moisture from a humidifier will clog these filters right up so use it w/o the humidifier to see if that helps you. But yes by all means do replace the other filter or you are spinning your wheels.

Also you may have to increase your pressure by 1 or 2 cms to compensate for the loss due to the inline filter.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:17 am

Guest wrote:
Mist_ynight wrote:I didn't know there was a filter for the hose! Thank you! I'll have to see if my local shop has that in stock.
Keep in mind that moisture from a humidifier will clog these filters right up so use it w/o the humidifier to see if that helps you..

ab filters work fine with the humidifier.

SmokeChaser426 · Post by **SmokeChaser426** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:29 am

Hello,
take the machine apart like you would for travel and get a can of compressed air and gently clean all of the openings.
Clean your mask and hose with a diluted baby soap mixture (unscented) or a white vinegar and water solution, rinse well
and air dry. Get some replacement filters from your service provider or buy online. Not too expensive. I have been looking
around for filter material that I could use to cut to size and make my own filters. I would think that the filter on the machine
works like the air filter on your car, you don't want to breath any of the particles in the air and you don't want those same things
bouncing around in your machine.
Being a truck driver changing the air filter is often something drivers stop doing when then run short on cash. Getting sand and
dirt in the engine is a much bigger expense like 25 grand for a rebuild. I use the hypoallergenic filters because of my allergies
and replace once a month. I have read other postings where they get changed every 2 weeks.
I would do some maintenance on the machine. Maybe some cotton swabs and lower % rubbing alcohol to clean out areas you
reach.
Even a used machine is like $ 350, 6 filters for $ 11.95 is a much better deal.
Doing your therapy is the best when using your machine the way it was designed.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:07 am

AB filters are DESIGNED to be used in a moist environment. Be sure to replace when advised.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:24 am

Obviously, clean what you can and change the filters. Also, see what your DME can do for you. Perhaps they can clean it in places you can't get to.

Also, another suggestion, somewhat out of the box. Leave the machine running 24/7 to help dislodge anything caught there and to prevent anything else from settling.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:47 am

chunkyfrog wrote:AB filters are DESIGNED to be used in a moist environment. Be sure to replace when advised.

If you had ever used one you would not make that comment.

Gasper62 · Post by **Gasper62** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:02 am

Guest wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:AB filters are DESIGNED to be used in a moist environment. Be sure to replace when advised.
If you had ever used one you would not make that comment.

If you ever knew WTF you're talking about...... you wouldn't make that comment. ^^

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:09 am

a word about ab filters..some cautions about using apap mode and low pressures and some input on where to attach it if using a heated hose with the humidifier along with the caution that it might result in a slight loss of pressure...but those are all easily dealt with.

Inline Bacterial Viral Filters are naturally hydrophobic so they allow maximum filtration with a minimum loss of air flow. Each unit is sonically sealed so there are no chemical adhesives or unwanted material residue. Universal Inline BV Filters are easy to install and should not require re-calibration on most CPAP machines. Simply attach the filter to your machine between the air outlet and your standard CPAP tubing. After that, turn on your machine and experience a steady flow of clean, pure, good tasting air.

USAGE: Inline Bacterial Viral filters are disposable and should be replaced whenever the white filter material begins to look dirty. These filters will last on average 4-6 weeks before needing to be replaced, however your filters may last for a longer or shorter amount of time depending on environmental conditions.

HEATED HUMIDIFICATION NOTES: Some users find that using in-line Bacterial Viral filters can reduce pressure and therapy effectiveness in humidified CPAP machines. If you experience reduced pressure when using an Inline Bacterial Viral Filter with a humidifier, remove the filter and allow it to dry out completely before re-installing on your system or discontinue use of the Inline Bacterial Viral filter completely.

HEATED TUBING NOTES: Inline Bacterial Viral Filters are generally attached to the CPAP or BiPAP machine's air outlet; however machines that offer integrated heated tubing (i.e. PR SystemOne 60 Series Machines, S9 Machines, AirSense 10 Machines, ICON Machines, etc.) require the tubing to be connected directly to the machine. If you want to use an Inline Bacterial Viral Filter with one of the machines listed above consider attaching the BV Filter at the end of the heated tubing closest to the mask. If that is too bulky for you a FeatherWeight connector tube can be added to move the BV Filter further away from the mask attachment.

AUTO-ADJUSTING MACHINE NOTES: Use of Inline Bacterial Viral Filters may adversely effect auto sensing on Auto-CPAP systems especially at pressures below 7 CM H2O. If your average treatment pressure is below 7 CM H2O Inline Bacterial Viral Filters are not recommended.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:11 am

There is a pretty large collection of people here you offer bad info...Please see Maintenance and Care

Gasper62 wrote:
Guest wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:AB filters are DESIGNED to be used in a moist environment. Be sure to replace when advised.
If you had ever used one you would not make that comment.
If you ever knew WTF you're talking about...... you wouldn't make that comment. ^^

Maintenance and Care

The length of use of the bacterial filter varies between users and environments. The filter should be replaced when there is debris seen on the white filter material. It is easy to see the condition of the filter through the clear acrylic globe. Replace the filter when it becomes discolored. If the bacteria filter becomes very dirty or wet, machine performance may be affected.

Heated humidifiers can cause water to collect in the filter chamber, thus clogging the filter and adversely affecting therapy. If wet, remove the filter from the machine and set out to dry. Dry time may vary.

A little reading and less badgering could go along way to helping people.

Gasper62 · Post by **Gasper62** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:19 am

Idiot. Read it again, all of it. You are capable of that, right ? Maybe read more slowly ?

Gasper62 · Post by **Gasper62** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:24 am

Try to grasp this concept while you're at it. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moist+vs+wet

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:24 am

Gasper62 wrote:Idiot. Read it again, all of it. You are capable of that, right ? Maybe read more slowly ?

Only IF/WHEN you read what I wrote first.

Gasper62 wrote:Read it again, all of it. You are capable of that, right ? Maybe read more slowly ?

Gasper62 wrote:Idiot.

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