Apex XT vs. Resmed Airsense 10 (for travel)

Hi

I have a Resmed Airsense 10 machine as my main CPAP machine, and I am considering the XT Fit CPAP Machine for backup and travel (seems very small, and with an integrated power adapter).

However, I am concerned about the level of noise vs. the Airsense 10 machine, particularly if it's noise coming into the hose that cannot be blocked with earplugs.

Does anybody have both machines and can provide a comparison?

Thanks!
T.

tedtomato wrote: XT Fit CPAP

The ResMed machine you have in your equipment profile is an auto. Are you looking at the XT Fit Auto?

Nope.

I am happy to have a standard fixed-pressure machine as a backup/for travel. The only issue I have (on paper) with the entry-level Fit model is that it doesn't display any data at all (like AHI etc).

I think the Fit and Auto models are the same anyway (apart from the software and data displayed) and may therefore make the same noise.

It is so cute. Noisewise, it's 28 db vs. 26, so a little more noisy. Are you accustomed to utter quiet or are you often sleeping in a noisy place. I am used to sleeping with racket, others are not. So for me, the sound difference isn't an issue.

Is it actually smaller? Remember your Airsense has a humidifier built in. You would have to buy the additional humidifier for this unit for another $100 if you feel you need humidity. Also, the XT Fit does not have EPR in the straight cpap model. If you don't normally use EPR, then a non-problem.

Keep in mind that this product came out at a time when the top-of-the line machines were pretty large. They are now fairly small and lightweight. Still, even with the recent discounts, if you want a NEW machine, the XT with humidifier is still under $300.

Thanks.

Noise-wise, I live in a very quiet home, and sleep with earplugs on top of it. I couldn't sleep even with the low noise of my Airsense 10 (as there is no other noise to hide it).

Therefore, a slightly noisier machine would be fine, as long as the noise doesn't go into the hose, and therefore can't be blocked by earplugs.

I believe the XT Fit (without humidifier) is quite small, and smaller than the Airsense without humidifier. Another difference is that the Airsense needs a quite heavy external power adapter, while it's build it in the XT fit, so overall weight to carry is probably half.

I don't use EPR, and could do without a humidifier for a few days.

Secondwind seems to have the higher spec APAP version of the XT range (refurbished) and sold only for $225, so this could be a good low cost option. I would be happy with a straight CPAP model (XT fit), but that model doesn't display any data, while the auto CPAP version (XT Auto) shows some stats.

The feel of my Devillbiss Intellipap is close to my Airsense,
and will work cheaply on 12 volt DC current.
If I wanted tiny, I would spring for a Transcend Auto.
But that is just me.

chunkyfrog wrote:The feel of my Devillbiss Intellipap is close to my Airsense,
and will work cheaply on 12 volt DC current.
If I wanted tiny, I would spring for a Transcend Auto.
But that is just me.

Unfortunately, the Devillbiss Intellipap seems to be more expensive. In term of size, I don't know how it compares with the Apex XT Range.

12v power supply is not a requirement for me, I never go camping.

What kind of data is displayed on the Devilbliss machine itself, in term of AHI etc?

The XT Fit is an inch smaller in one dimension and maybe a pound lighter than the full featured Respironics 560, which can be had for not much more money. If there's any thought of running on a battery, the 12V input will be a big win and easily make up for the difference in size, weight, and price.

As for sound, you can take the specs with a HUGE grain of salt. Its really very subjective, and the specs focus on total sound, while a buzz at one frequency may not affect the specs but can be annoying. Also, without a humidifier, the hose noise can be loud. I can't hear a thing with a 560 with humidifier, but without, I need to add a muffler.

CapnLoki wrote:The XT Fit is an inch smaller in one dimension and maybe a pound lighter than the full featured Respironics 560, which can be had for not much more money.

The Apex XT fit (new) is $180 (without humidifier) - No data reported, and just CPAP

The Apex XT Auto (refurbished) is $225 (without humidifier) - Data reported on the machine, and APAP

The Respironics 560 seems to be twice as much, at least. In term of size, it's bigger and has an external power supply.

Ideally, I am looking for a small and lightweight machine to use when traveling (no camping), and also cheap. I don't also have a backup machine currently.

CPAP is fine, but I would need the machine to show at least some reporting data, like the AHI etc. This therefore excludes the Apex XT fit model (no data displayed), and the Resmed AirStart machines (cheap, but without data).

Many machines also need a bulky power supply, while the Apex XT range and DeVilbiss IntelliPAP range have an integrated power supply (supporting 100v to 240v).

Personally, since you are using the Airsense 10 Autoset, I would go for the Airstart model. It is very similar to your Airsense and can use
some of the same accessories and features. You can use it without the humidifier with a side cap. Price is really good too.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... idair.html

If you don't have a cpap that works on 12V battery you are cheating yourself. Do you think you will live the rest of you life and never experience a power outage and want to get some sleep?

Guest wrote:If you don't have a cpap that works on 12V battery you are cheating yourself. Do you think you will live the rest of you life and never experience a power outage and want to get some sleep?

Is it your contention that all users of ResMed machines (and any other non-12v equipment) are cheating themselves? Is 12v the only voltage available during a power outage? I sense a 12v revolution looming.
BTW, I travel with my AS10 fairly frequently - humidifier, heated hose and all - the case is quite compact. In my case, familiarity does not breed contempt, rather, it provides comfort.

The Airstart 10 models were indeed my first choice, as they are cheap (comparatively to the rest of the Resmed devices) and would indeed be compatible with many parts of my Airsense model (e.g. humidifier, power supply etc).

However, the main drawback is that there is no data available at all, like the AHI etc, so difficult to monitor the therapy. The only model with data is the Airsense 10 Elite and above, and this is too costly for a backup device.

Also, while the Resmed carry cases are very nice, they are quite big. I would prefer a machine that fits into my standard suitcase, and less heavy (with an integrated power supply). Also, it triggers fewer questions when I travel with colleagues etc.

I am not going to buy a battery and machine compatible with 12v just to protect for power cuts. I live in the UK (London) and I can't remember when we last had a power cut, but it was many years ago, and maybe for 10 minutes... Power cuts are not really an issue in Western Europe, apart maybe in rural/remote areas, and under extreme circumstances (storms etc).

Running the machine off a battery is not a requirement for me. Requirements are: something small/light, quiet, with some reporting on the machine and cheap (less than $300).