Mojo Gel Mask

I'm thinking about trying the Mojo Gel mask, but I've read reviews that it has a pretty noisy exhaust.
Anyone here have an opinion on that aspect of the mask?

I have a Mojo and find the exhaust to be very quiet, but it does blow air on my hands and arms when sleeping on my side.

Alisha wrote:I have a Mojo and find the exhaust to be very quiet, but it does blow air on my hands and arms when sleeping on my side.

I've never tried the Mojo (well, at least not the "mask" ) so i can't really offer an opinion on the loudness.
OTOH, I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I actually like the *fresh air* blowing on me from my Activa. I think it actually may have been some help for me in getting used to a cpap mask, initially.

Alisha, have you tried any different FF masks? I've wondered how the Mojo might compare to them. Who knows?... if Resmed becomes a problem, I might be forced to consider an alternative to my Ultra Mirage FF....
or then again, maybe NOT

Vader, the following is STRICTLY my own experience and opinion of ff masks. I don't know if it will be of value to you, since I didn't like the Ultra Mirage ff and I believe you do. I haven't fallen in love with a ff yet.

I believe my favorite now is the Fisher & Paykel FlexiFit 431 which fits under the chin. I'm a side sleeper and it seems leaks are always a problem. The way the straps attach to this mask enabled me to also attach a pantyhose leg over the forehead strap and another over the chin strap. This seems to be stopping most of the leaks. Also, the chin fit is quite comfortable. I have TMJ and think maybe the chin fit is helping with that, too.

The Mojo took about a week of adjustments to get a good fit and control the leaks. The pliable ring allows you to mold the mask just about any way you want to fit your face. I love the gel because it's more gentle on my delicate skin. I'll start wearing it again if the headpiece pad Karen is making for it works for me. If it does, I'll probably alternate between Mojo and the 431.

My favorite of all the ff masks I've used was the ResMed Series2. I today received a shipment from cpap.com which was supposed to include a new cushion for this old mask. I was disappointed because I wanted to try the old S2 again. I'll have to email or call to find out if it can still be shipped. I liked this mask because it gave a better seal than any others I've tried. All I had to do was, after I lay down on my side, pull the mask away from my face, release it, and I could hear it seal.

I also tried the ResMed Ultra Mirage ff and Respironics ComfortFull ff. Both of these made me feel like I was smothering. They probably put too much pressure on my nose (the size on one mask can fit differently than same size on another mask), and I didn't need additional nasal congestion.

Again, this only reflects my experience and opinion.

I've been looking at it, may just have to order one to cure my own curiosity:



Below are the normal things I look for when selecting a new mask:

1. Quick Release Clips: Does the mask have quick release "clips" for removing the headgear?? Why do you want that it has velcro? so you can easily clean the mask without losing your strap tension settings. If you cannot remove the headgear for cleaning purposes without losing your strap settings, then a mask is totally useless to me.

CPAP.com says:

Unique magnetic clips are virtually foolproof. They easily click into position securing the mask and keeping the straps in place. The clips also allow for a quick release of the mask.

2. Leak or Leak Control: Forehead pivot; Purpose of this mask feature is to adjust the tilt of the mask parallel to the face to either stop leaks into the eyes and/or stop leaks found in the mouth area. Nearly every nasal/full face mask I have used that has a notched pivot doesn't quite have the "notch" exactly in the right spot for me, so one having a wheel for infinite adjustment would be welcomed.

CPAP.com says:

Air leakage is eliminated by adjusting the headgear, as the dual beam element transfers the force of the straps to the center of the mask. SleepNet's proprietary tension wheel fine-tunes the fit.

3. How well does it adapt to the face of different patients: Some of us have fat faces some have skinny, some have long, some have short, some have beards some do not.

CPAP.com says:

Mojo's contoured shell follows the curves of the human face and easily bends inward and outward for a comfortable fit.

4. Quality: How well is it made? How does it compare to say a Respironics Cheapo Classic? or a Resmed UltraMirage? Is it going to have fragile clips the Comfort2?

CPAP.com says:

The SleepNet Full Face Mask, designed using strong, durable and medically approved materials, will easily withstand the rigors of home or travel use.

5. NOISE: it appears to be noisy. At what pressure? That is a bummer. Don't these guys do ANY testing at all???? How can you miss that?

CPAP.com says:
I read all the reviews from cpap.com, nearly every purchaser that responded mentions NOISE or earplugs, okay I take that to mean it is noisy.

6. Comfort. How comfortable is it? Compared to what? if you are going to write about something comfort, tell us how it "compares to" red apples or green apples. If you think it is more comfortable than red apples, say so, or if green apples are more comfortable say that.

When I first started CPAP, there was a great website that had "ratings" on masks, it had similar scoring criteria as you could write what you wanted but you also "rated" the mask on all the different aspects from 1 to 10 with 10 being the best. Then you could easily compare masks scores and popularity between masks. "Top Sellers" can be misleading, if you have a large DME purchasing masks from an on-line vendor they can easily skew your data by purchasing several hundred masks at a time. I tried several masks and those ratings where fairly accurate compared to my own observations.

I jumped on the hype wagon too soon, the Hybrid was an expensive DUD for me, you'd think after purchasing 15 or 20 masks I'd learn my lesson.

Snoredog, I'll add a couple more comments on the Mojo after reading what you look for in a ff.

The chin clips are great, easy to use. However, the velco straps for the forehead will have to be pulled off to wash the mask, so you'll have to reposition them to put back on mask.

Once I got the leaks removed with the tensioning screw (as I said, it took almost a week to get it right), I didn't have any more noise from the Mojo. Those who complained about noise either never got the tension right or maybe pressure difference is the culprit. My cpap pressure is 8. If they don't have cflex, maybe the exhale port could be noisy.

[quote="Alisha"]Snoredog, I'll add a couple more comments on the Mojo after reading what you look for in a ff.

The chin clips are great, easy to use. However, the velco straps for the forehead will have to be pulled off to wash the mask, so you'll have to reposition them to put back on mask.

Once I got the leaks removed with the tensioning screw (as I said, it took almost a week to get it right), I didn't have any more noise from the Mojo. Those who complained about noise either never got the tension right or maybe pressure difference is the culprit. My cpap pressure is 8. If they don't have cflex, maybe the exhale port could be noisy.

Snoredog. Sorry this is late but I've had a busy day. I'll attempt to answer your queries.

....."Since you have used the Series2 which is the same as the UMFF but without the forehead pivot, how do you compare the noise level of the Mojo to the Series2? Which would you say is more: Quieter or more Noisy? "

I found them both quiet. It would be a toss of a coin.

....."Sealing ability: Guys don't like to use pantyhose for anything other than polishing shoes or armed robbery or making a potato launcher. Without the pantyhose... how prone is the Mojo towards leaking as compared to the Series2? Which would you say is easier to stop leaks while maintaining comfort? "

I did not need to use pantyhose with the Mojo or the S2. I'll repeat what I've said about Mojo leaks: "Once I got the leaks removed with the tensioning screw (as I said, it took almost a week to get it right), I didn't have any more noise from the Mojo." and I'll add now very few leaks. This again could be a tossup. The gel is the most comfortable on the face and was worth the week of adjusting to get the leaks minimized. With the Series 2, it took little time to get the seal right and the leaks minimized, but the silicon was never as comfortable on my face as the gel.

"Do you know if the thumbwheel pivot/forehead support can be removed from the Mojo's base mask leaving the headgear attached? On some masks like the UM2 it is the same way, but on those you can push the pivot release button and completely remove the forehead support from the base mask so cleaning is a breeze. I don't remove the cushions on my masks for cleaning, I leave them installed. The UMFF has been the best at this so far, it has 4ea quick-release clips so you can completely remove the headgear still keeping tension settings."

I have no idea what the "thumbwheel pivot/forehead support" is. The Mojo does not have a pivot release button to remove the forehead support from the base mask. On the Mojo, the forehead support is more than an inch away from the headgear straps. There is no way the upper strap can be removed without undoing the velco, but this will not affect the tension settings. The upper straps can be as loose or tight as you like because they are not used to stop leaks. This is done by tightening the lower straps for lower leaks or by working with the tension screw to stop nosebridge leaks. Because of the tension screw, everything is attached securely to the mask.

I hope this makes sense. You really need to see the mask. None of the pictures of Mojo on the websites show a clear enough side view for you to know what to expect. When I received mine, I was surprised because it did not look like what I expected from the online pictures.

I would say the Mojo would be a good mask for a "very" patient, determined individual who will not give up before he gets the fit just right with the pliable ring and gets the leaks controlled with the tension screw. It wouldn't hurt to also be stubborn. I kept working with it because I have waited years for someone to offer us a gel ff mask.

Snoredog, some of us ladies might think that anyone would have to be sorta foolish to refuse to use something (pantyhose) that would help with mask problems. LOL I tried to put a smileyface here, but I haven't got the hang of it yet.

Sorry, Snoredog. That was me. I thought I had logged in.

The trick to using the smilies; After typing leave a space, then click on the smiley, then another space.


Brenda

Alisha wrote:Vader, the following is STRICTLY my own experience and opinion of ff masks. I don't know if it will be of value to you, since I didn't like the Ultra Mirage ff and I believe you do.

Yep, that's what we all do, just give our opinions.

And yes, your reply is of value to me because it's good to get a lot of different perspectives that are based on personal experience.
The Mojo Mask is starting to become intriguing to me.

I haven't seen much info anywhere about part replacements for this mask.
Do you know, are all the normal parts (such as the gel insert) replaceable?

Thanks again.