RLS: Magnesium Type?

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RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by Air Jordan » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:17 am

I see different forms of magnesium supplements. What is the best type for restless legs syndrome?

(Asking for a friend.)

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by nicholasjh1 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:48 am

Good question, I take magnesium threonate which is one of the best. Not sure about it's relation to restless leg, but it more easily gets to the brain so may be better if RLS is brain related. Edit: Worth noting too, I've never been diagnosed with RLS, but my calf muscles stopped locking up at night after taking this supplement.
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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:08 am

Air Jordan wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:17 am
I see different forms of magnesium supplements. What is the best type for restless legs syndrome?

(Asking for a friend.)

Thank you.
See ------>
In two human trials magnesium oxide, one of the most common forms in magnesium dietary supplements because of its high magnesium content per weight, was less bioavailable than magnesium citrate, chloride, lactate or aspartate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium ... ementation
Based on that, I would get magnesium citrate which is reasonably priced. Do note that larger doses of magnesium citrate are used as a laxative.
magnesium threonate
Note that there is no current science showing this is a better supplement than other forms of magnesium supplements. If you google it, you will see that it is sold on woo sites making unfounded claims and charging a high price. I would stay away from it.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by rzw » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:51 am

Magnesium is bound with different carries for absorption....what they are bound with can have their own benefits etc......Bottom line, if you take in enough magnesium, it should help with RLS, no matter which kind.....

1. Easiest form to try is magnesium citrate....absorbs well....its bound with citric acid, so it can also help with moving your bowels as well.....most caps come in between 100mg and 150mg per cap.....you should start out with one at a time about 1 to 2 hours before bed.......it will be something you will notice a difference the first time taking if the dose your taking is strong enough.....so if 1 cap doesn't have much affect, go to two.....once you start to get to that 200mg-400mg dose the benefits start to kick in.

2. Another good form is Magneisum Malate.....here the magnesium is bound with malic acid, which comes from apples.....this form is not as common in stores, an you would need to go to health food store to pick up or you can order from amazon.....Designs for Health is a good brand....they come in 180mg per cap.....I like this form and you cantake it during the day....Malic acid can also be good for digestion, cleansing of the liver, and for anykind of aches and pains......

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:54 am

rzw wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:51 am
cleansing of the liver
I enjoyed your post until this point. Livers don't need cleaning.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by nicholasjh1 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:28 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:08 am
Air Jordan wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:17 am
I see different forms of magnesium supplements. What is the best type for restless legs syndrome?

(Asking for a friend.)

Thank you.
See ------>
In two human trials magnesium oxide, one of the most common forms in magnesium dietary supplements because of its high magnesium content per weight, was less bioavailable than magnesium citrate, chloride, lactate or aspartate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium ... ementation
Based on that, I would get magnesium citrate which is reasonably priced. Do note that larger doses of magnesium citrate are used as a laxative.
magnesium threonate
Note that there is no current science showing this is a better supplement than other forms of magnesium supplements. If you google it, you will see that it is sold on woo sites making unfounded claims and charging a high price. I would stay away from it.
There are studies, Stop trolling.
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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by palerider » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:48 pm

nicholasjh1 wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:28 pm
There are studies, Stop trolling.
With a little effort, one can find 'studies' that say pretty much whatever bs one wants to champion.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:06 pm

palerider wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:48 pm
With a little effort, one can find 'studies' that say pretty much whatever bs one wants to champion.
Champion and sell for a high profit margin to the naive.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by rzw » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:49 pm

Not promoting anything.....take the info how you want.....I will say I started taking magnesium malate in the day time because the other forms would make me tired....the malate form did not....as a matter of fact, I had a bit more energy, a little less pain in some of my joints....I love to lift weights and have done so since I was 15, i'm 49...so time has caught up a bit.....I also have somewhat dry skin, prone to a bit of eczema.....when I started taking 180mg of mag malate 2 times a day, just to get more magnesium in my system, I started sleeping better than I ever have.....not only with initiating sleep, but also going into a more deep sleep......shortly after I noticed the eczema I have battled for a long time was fading, but I was really surprised how much smoother my skin feels....it was more hydrated to the point that I stopped using facial lotion.....so when I started reading about malic acid, that's when I came across some of this info....may or may not be true....but I started to experience these things way before I started reading about it......but it really doesn't matter, I was just simply pointing out that all magnesium is bound with something to help it absorb better in the body.....you can also buy malic acid buy itself...

Malic acid is a natural substance found in fruit and vegetables – one of the richest sources being apples. It is also naturally present in your body’s cells and large amounts of it are formed and then eventually broken down again on a daily basis. It possesses many health-related benefits such as boosting immunity, maintaining oral health, reducing the risk of poisoning from a build-up of toxic metals and promoting smoother and firmer skin.
Malic Acid: The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia connection
One of its most significant benefits lies in its ability to stimulate metabolism and increase energy production. This action is linked to the important role it plays in a process known as the Krebs cycle – named after Sir Hans Krebs, a German-born British biochemist.
Krebs won the Nobel price for physiology in 1953 for describing how a complex series of biochemical reactions takes place within the body’s cells to transform proteins, fat and carbohydrates into water and energy. This process requires a constant supply of vitamins, enzymes and chemical agents such as malic acid, in order to keep it functioning properly 24 hours a day.
The Krebs cycle is vital to our very existence and without it energy production would literally grind to a halt. Therefore it is essential that you have adequate supplies of malic acid in order to promote the efficient functioning of this cycle.
Malic acid plays a vital role in improving overall muscle performance, reversing muscle fatigue following exercise, reducing tiredness and poor energy levels, as well as improving mental clarity. These actions can make it a beneficial treatment for sufferers of fibromyalgia and CFS (both these conditions involve muscle pain, joint tenderness and low energy levels).
According to Dr Jay Goldstein, Director of the CFS Institute in the US: ‘Malic acid is safe, inexpensive and it should be considered a valid therapeutic approach for patients with CFS’.
A six-month study was conducted by scientists working at the Department of Medicine, University of Texas Health Science Centre in the US, to examine the efficacy of 1,200mg of malic acid plus 300mg of magnesium a day on 24 fibromyalgia sufferers. Half of the patients were given the active treatment, while the other half only received placebo.
At the end of the study, all of the patients treated with malic acid and magnesium experienced significant improvements in their symptoms – including less pain, reduced muscle stiffness and a more positive mental outlook – without any side effects.
Dr Russell, who led the team of scientists, concluded: ‘The data suggest that malic acid and magnesium are safe and may be beneficial in the treatment of patients with fibromyalgia. Future studies should use malic acid at this dose and continue the therapy for at least two months’.
Malic Acid: A diverse range of benefits
In addition to increasing energy levels, malic acid is also an effective metal chelator. This means it is able to bind to potentially toxic metals that may have accumulated in the body, such as aluminium or lead, and inactivate them. As a result, the risk of toxicity is considerably reduced. Heavy metal overload has been linked to serious problems like liver disease and brain disorders like Alzheimer’s disease.
Malic acid also helps maintain oral hygiene. It stimulates the production of saliva, which reduces the number of harmful bacteria circulating in your mouth, teeth and gums. It acts as an antiseptic too, which also helps to ensure that germs in the mouth are kept to a minimum and considerably reduces the risk of infection. This explains why malic acid is commonly used as an ingredient in mouthwashes and toothpastes.
To add to the list of benefits, malic acid also helps to maintain good, healthy skin. It is classified as an ‘alpha hydroxy acid’ – a chemical term used to describe fruit acids that are used in many cosmetics because of their ability to help exfoliate the skin and act as mild chemical face peels. This helps your skin to look healthier, younger and firmer. For a natural face peel you can apply thin slices of apple (which is a rich natural source) directly onto your skin for 20 minutes and then wash off with rose water.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by MrsRinPDX » Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm

I don't have RLS or leg cramps often enough to warrant prescription medicine, but my doctor recommended magnesium citrate after dinner, daily. It works pretty darn well. And yes, it does have a laxative effect. I buy mine through Amazon.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by kteague » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:41 pm

I take magnesium for my RLS and PLMD but honestly my purchases are random and I haven't seen an appreciable difference in results. Some others are apparently more in tune than I. On another note, in your efforts to address your RLS, have you already checked to make sure your ferritin level is up near 100?

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by jagzoo » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:22 pm

I also take magnesium.. I use Magnesium Malate as it has less laxative effect on me than the citrate form and studies seem to indicat that it has a positive on healthy sleep..

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by esel » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:20 am

Sorry for my most rapid reply and hope the info may be useful.

It is important to take Magnesium regularly, the body ability to adsorb and store magnesium is slow and needs time. Sure there are many different types as to how fast it is released from the tablet and people are different as to be able to take it up.

One I got suggested is the magnesium vital but I have no idea if available at your place.

I sure could get some and ship it if you like to try it, just PM me.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:19 am

Here's a pro magnesium supplement article by Dr Axe: https://draxe.com/magnesium-supplements/
I have no idea who Dr Axe is, obviously a self promoter, but the article is interesting. I take magnesium glycinate. It seems to calm my PMLD and provide more restful sleep with fewer CA's as compared to before starting. This, even though my pre supplement serum levels of magnesium were normal.

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Re: RLS: Magnesium Type?

Post by yourbrokenoven » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:14 am

Magnesium does act as a muscle relaxer but I wouldn't have expected it to work unless your level was slightly too high. I've been a nurse 12 years and had never heard of taking magnesium for restless leg syndrome.