If you use the Brevida nasal mask- advice please

DaisySmith · Post by **DaisySmith** » Tue May 15, 2018 5:03 pm

I bought this because I tried it on at the office and it seemed like it would be pretty comfortable. When I put this on at night it does this crazy annoying thing where it sucks in and out with each breath. I have my pressure start low (about 8 right now then ramp up) Even at 8 though it does that sucking thing. Does anyone else feel that?? I need to use something besides my usual Dreamwear as it has been leaking horribly and Im not sure why (replaced cushion etc).

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 15, 2018 5:20 pm

Yeah...that inhale/exhale ...inflate/deflate thing.
If you are using EPR exhale relief you might find that the inflate/deflate thing is less annoying if you can do without the change that using EPR brings.
Otherwise you learn to live with it and it becomes less annoying.

The super thinness and softness of the pillow also has it's drawback in that it allows the inflate/deflate thing to happen.
It took me a couple of weeks before I was able to tune out the inflate/deflate annoyance.
I think I used the Brevida for about 3 months but eventually went back to the P10 because of headgear issues more than anything else.

Mark55 · Post by **Mark55** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:09 pm

I have been using the Brevida since day one, and believe it or not,...I have never noticed what you are complaining of. I run mine at 7 with EPR set at 2.

I have better luck with this mask than any I have tried.

HoseCrusher · Post by **HoseCrusher** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:35 pm

Oh my goodness...

I feel like I am totally missing out.

I have used this mask for an extended period of time and have never experienced the pulsing you are talking about.

I just went and laid down to see if I was missing something because I frequently fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow. No joy. I use the medium to large pillow and I changed to the medium to small pillow to see if that made a difference. No joy.

The idea of a pulsating and undulating piece of silicone dancing on the end of my nose sounds exciting, but I am unable to get my mask to dance. I wear my mask loose and suffer from leaks when I turn my head, but that doesn't seem to make any difference.

Does this mean that I need to look into facial reconstruction to enjoy the full experience of this mask?

OK drama aside, I have no idea what you and Pugsy are talking about. Like Mark55 I am oblivious to what you are talking about.

It just goes to show that for a particular mask your mileage may vary...

DaisySmith · Post by **DaisySmith** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:05 pm

HoseCrusher wrote: ↑
Tue May 15, 2018 7:35 pm
Oh my goodness...

I feel like I am totally missing out.

I have used this mask for an extended period of time and have never experienced the pulsing you are talking about.

I just went and laid down to see if I was missing something because I frequently fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow. No joy. I use the medium to large pillow and I changed to the medium to small pillow to see if that made a difference. No joy.

The idea of a pulsating and undulating piece of silicone dancing on the end of my nose sounds exciting, but I am unable to get my mask to dance. I wear my mask loose and suffer from leaks when I turn my head, but that doesn't seem to make any difference.

Does this mean that I need to look into facial reconstruction to enjoy the full experience of this mask?

OK drama aside, I have no idea what you and Pugsy are talking about. Like Mark55 I am oblivious to what you are talking about.

It just goes to show that for a particular mask your mileage may vary...

Well shoot, I wonder why mine does it. Its so annoying!!! Maybe I'll stick it out and see if there is any way I can get used to it. What pressure do you start out with?

DaisySmith · Post by **DaisySmith** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:07 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Tue May 15, 2018 5:20 pm
Yeah...that inhale/exhale ...inflate/deflate thing.
If you are using EPR exhale relief you might find that the inflate/deflate thing is less annoying if you can do without the change that using EPR brings.
Otherwise you learn to live with it and it becomes less annoying.

The super thinness and softness of the pillow also has it's drawback in that it allows the inflate/deflate thing to happen.
It took me a couple of weeks before I was able to tune out the inflate/deflate annoyance.
I think I used the Brevida for about 3 months but eventually went back to the P10 because of headgear issues more than anything else.

Funny you say that. I got the P10 but the straps are so thin I feel like it's not very secure. Actually the reason I cant tolerate it is the pillows shoved up my nose. I remember a discussion involving O rings but it was so old the images dont show up. Can anyone explain how O rings help with nasal pillows?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:29 pm

There's a current image of the O rings around the neck of a nasal pillow in this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76193&p=1212321#p1212321
last post I think

I never felt the need to try the O ring trick myself so I have had no experience with it. I think the idea is support but if the pillows are trying to crawl up inside the nose then things are too tight or the pillow is too small. I have always been able to use the XSmall size in any model nasal pillow mask except with the with P10 and I had to move up to the Small because the XSmall tried to crawl up inside my nose.

As far as the Brevida...it took me 2 weeks to get to a point where I could ignore the inflate/deflate thing to the point it didn't affect my ability to fall asleep quickly.
As to why some people experience it and others don't....I don't know.

HoseCrusher · Post by **HoseCrusher** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:16 am

My pressure range is 11 - 17. I use a ramp of 10 minutes starting at a pressure of 8.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Thu May 17, 2018 8:15 am

Yes, the pulsations are there, but they are usually quite subtle.
They do not bother most of us, but a few unlucky souls may find it disturbing.
Perhaps a mask liner (Pad a Cheek) would help . . .

jagzoo · Post by **jagzoo** » Thu May 17, 2018 8:34 pm

I also am using the Brevida. Pressure setting is 11 -15. No ramp, EPR 1. I have’t noticed any pulsating either. ?? I just masked up and looked for it but don’t feel any. Strange.

JimW159 · Post by **JimW159** » Sun May 20, 2018 9:02 am

Me too. I have been using the Brevida since before it was released in the US (Canada is a useful hunting ground when one wants something they have but we don't). I have never felt anything strange or disturbing in the miniscule ebb and flow of cushion movement. I can see a situation in which it might be more obvious and serious investigation using SleepyHead:
1) If your pressure settings are very broad (the full 4-20 as an example)
2) and if your nightly use encompasses much of that range

These two factors could contribute to the feeling of pulsation due to frequent change in rigidity of the cushion walls. I certainly should not be telling you to change any specific pressure setting, but I am suggesting you delve into how your machine is actually set up - knowledge is your best friend.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Sun May 20, 2018 9:54 am

Let's be clear about something....when I experience the inflate/deflate thing I am awake and the pressure isn't changing so the fact that I use apap mode with a wide range doesn't really matter. I would have the same thing happen if I was in fixed mode.
Once I go to sleep the inflate/deflate thing is a non issue....I only notice it while awake and only for a brief time. It does delay sleep onset briefly and I was able to move past that issue.

Since I have experienced the inflate/deflate thing...and it did affect my ability to get to sleep in a timely manner at first...I can see where it can bug some people.
Since I also was able to move past it and get to a point where I didn't notice it...I also understand that some people aren't bugged by it.

I think that this goes back to individual preferences/wants/needs. Some people are just bugged by some stuff more than other people are bugged by the same stuff. They just can't tune it out as easily for whatever reason.

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