Heated tube or zippered hose cover better for rainout?

Hi all,

Now that its becoming colder in the winter and I'm keeping the house cooler, I'm experiencing rainout in my tubing. I found out there's two options,

1. Zippered hose cover that zips around the tubing and keeps it semi-insulated (about $15)
2. Heated tubing that actively heats the air to keep water from condensing inside. (closer to $40)

Can anyone share whether they've tried one or the other or both and how they compare down to the temperature of the low to mid 60s F in the house?

Obviously the hose cover is way cheaper and re-usable, but if I can get a few months out of the heated tubing, that'll take me back into warmer weather anyway so would be fine here in the South of the USA.

I'm going to reduce the level of humidification in my cpap until I decide so i don't drown in my sleep again

I find the heated hose more effective, and easier to keep clean.
Some like a hose cozy because--cuddly, and less exciting for the cat.

Weef23 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:56 am

I'm going to reduce the level of humidification in my cpap until I decide so i don't drown in my sleep again

If your nasal passages don't get dry, why not leave it at a low humidity level?

Depending on where you are in the South, do you even need a CPAP humidifier? (I don't use one at all.)

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:00 am

Weef23 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:56 am

I'm going to reduce the level of humidification in my cpap until I decide so i don't drown in my sleep again

If your nasal passages don't get dry, why not leave it at a low humidity level?

Depending on where you are in the South, do you even need a CPAP humidifier? (I don't use one at all.)

Fair point!

I haven't had any nasal passage issues so far but have always used the humidifier so I'm scared not to

I'd assume when it gets deeper into winter the humidity level drops pretty significantly but that's a good point. I can just reduce it for now and delay getting anything if it doesn't bother me. Thanks for talking me out of spending more money! I'll give that a shot and wait and see.

I will assume you have read this...posts #2 and 3 if you haven't. Discusses pretty much all the options available for condensation/rain out control.
viewtopic/t94035/Pugsys-Pointers-3Deali ... -road.html

I started cpap therapy over 9 years ago. There were no heated hoses except for a very expensive stand alone Aussie heated hose.
You think $40 is high price...try nearly 4 times that 40 bucks for the Aussie hose.
I refused to pay that for a hose so I got real adept at using hose covers to prevent condensation.

Hose covers/cozies can work depending on your humidity setting you prefer (I need all I can get to keep my nose happy) and your preferred bedroom ambient temperature.
The main down side to the hose cozy....they add weight to the hose which translates into weight on the mask and if your mask is barely secured because of minimal headgear (like my P10)...the weight can pull the mask off the face sometimes.

When the integrated hoses were finally available from Respironics and ResMed....made my winter cpap therapy much easier and more comfortable and also allowed for more consistent humidity delivery.

I use a heated hose year round...turn down the temp in the spring and summer when warmer isn't needed and doesn't feel so great and higher in the late fall and winter when it is needed to prevent condensation and even prevent ice cube nose syndrome (nose hurts because it gets cold and the hurting wakes you up).

As far as how long of a life for a heated hose....I had one that went through 3 different S9 machines...had over 10,000 hours of use on it most likely. With some common sense care they will last for years. Currently have 16 months on this recent hose...changed from the S9 to the AirSense 10 in Aug of 2017 so had to retire the S9 hose since it wouldn't fit on the AirSense. I use it year round.

Oh...hose cozy won't help much for the condensation in the mask sometimes caused by the moisture in our own exhaled breaths.
The air just cools down too much too fast (depends on room temp) to stay warm enough to prevent condensation in the mask itself.
Sometimes even the heated hose comes up short depending on how cold the room is and sometimes there is a big difference in prevention of condensation with just 1 degree warmer in that mask.

So coming from someone who has used both the hose cozy and the heated hose....heated hose wins hands down for me.

Weef23 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:56 am

Can anyone share whether they've tried one or the other or both and how they compare down to the temperature of the low to mid 60s F in the house?

well, obviously it's a comfort feature. i don't know why i said that but people here say things like that.

i've used both. i'm a spoiled man in that my wife is rather good with the sewing machine. so she whipped up a cozy for me when i first started.

i too like to keep my room around 64 f overnight and burrow into the covers. and i found that to my liking, the heated tube was best. the cozy can only block out so much cool, while the heated tube can block out more.

just my $0.02.

We like to keep our bedroom cool this time of year (low 60s, high 50s). We use the heated hose and hose cover, both. The heated hose controls the rain out, and the hose cover makes the hose much quieter when it rubs on the top of the headboard. The hose cover also feels much better than the bare hose when it rubs against my soft, delicate skin.

zonker wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:40 am

i don't know why i said that but people here say things like that.

Okie bipap wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:00 pm

We use the heated hose and hose cover, both. The heated hose controls the rain out, and the hose cover makes the hose much quieter when it rubs on the top of the headboard. The hose cover also feels much better than the bare hose when it rubs against my soft, delicate skin.

Exactly this. I use both. The cover is mostly to make the hose quieter and more comfortable, but it doesn't hurt for rainout either.

I've used both--hose cover for 10 years, only in the winter time, and now the heated tube with my shiny new Resmed. The heated tube definitely prevents rainout better than the cover, especially when it's really chilly. I think it prevents/reduces the heavy condensation in the mask tubing too, since the air's warmer further down the hose.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:38 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:40 am

i don't know why i said that but people here say things like that.

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for some reason, that part you quoted? i read it in a forrest gump voice.

zonker wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:08 pm

for some reason, that part you quoted? i read it in a forrest gump voice.

Ahhh, that's why I thought it was so adorable.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:13 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:08 pm

for some reason, that part you quoted? i read it in a forrest gump voice.

Ahhh, that's why I thought it was so adorable.

zonker wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:57 pm

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ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:23 am

zonker wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:57 pm

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