How is N30i for active side sleepers

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:37 pm

zonker wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:13 pm
#notallfatoldmen

You can use caps in there...

Like over on Amazon, they were advertising #TheGrandTour, #amazonshitcarshow.

Sometimes the caps help.

weroberts75 · Post by **weroberts75** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:11 am

Ok, so my take after a week is that the N30i is great for side sleepers if fitted properly.

I went through my DME and am grateful, because otherwise I would have ordered a standard frame and had more issues.
My DME respiratory therapist noticed that even though the distance from my nose to my chin is longer than average and the distance from the front to the back of my head is large, the area of my face where the mask frame goes is actually better suited for a small N30i frame. We tried out both a small and a standard frame on me, and clearly the small worked better.

I also recommend trying several different cushions. The starter packs each have three different sizes to choose from. My nose fits into the small cushion best; however, the curve of my upper lip fits best into the small-wide cushion. The medium cushion was the most comfortable in both places but was harder to get a seal. (Each cushion has a different curvature in addition to different sized holes.)

So, I initially went home and started with a small cushion, but last night I tried the small-wide cushion and had far fewer leaks than with the small (which caused mouth leak because I couldn't get as much air through it). The small-wide cushion really looked like it would be too wide for my nose, but it actually wasn't. The holes in it, although slightly wider than my nostrils, sealed perfectly where the cushion wrapped around my nose. I got the deepest sleep since starting the AirFit N30i.

Bottom line: Each frame and cushion combination forms different angles with the nose and upper lip, so try as many combos as possible.

Thumper68 · Post by **Thumper68** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:19 pm

Well, I really wanted to like this mask. However I didn't. My issues were:

1. I perceived diminished airflow ( with the same pressure settings of 11-20)
2. It was noisier that my dreamwear nasal cushion
3. The venting was more forceful and annoying than the dreamwear. It does vent more air than the dreamwear, so that may play into my perception of reduced airflow.

What I did like about it:

1. It is more stable than the dreamwear
2. the nose cushion is more comfortable and sturdier than the dreamwear
3. While the headgear does ride up, it does it less often and doesn't ride up as far. I liked the headgear so much that I now use it on my dreamwear. It does ride up farther on the dreamwear, so I believe that it has something to do with where the straps connect on the frame. It is better with the resmed headgear however. The resmed headgear is sturdier as well.

In the end I wont be using this mask (just the head gear. I only compared it to the dreamwear as the dreamwear is the only other mask I have used.

realshelby · Post by **realshelby** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:08 am

Thumper68 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:19 pm

4. It doesn't have a quick disconnect at the elbow. I like to leave the mask on and disconnect from the hose when I have to get up in the middle of the night.

I don't have one, yet, but everything I read and see about them shows a quick disconnect for the hose where it attaches to the headgear. Similar to Resmeds quick disconnect on some of their other masks, two plastic thingys you depress and it releases.

I do like the Dreamwear disconnect ( as long as you don't forget the little white piece in the hose and try to attach another mask to it....) as it is simple and easy. Probably better than the Resmed style. But with a bit of practice I am sure the Resmed will be seamless to use.

djams · Post by **djams** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:13 am

Thumper68 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:19 pm
4. It doesn't have a quick disconnect at the elbow. I like to leave the mask on and disconnect from the hose when I have to get up in the middle of the night.

But it does have a very easy to use quick disconnect on top of the headgear. Squeeze the 2 tabs.

For the record, I also found the N30i vents slightly more, and is slightly noisier while breathing (the air passing thru the headgear sound seemed louder), compared to the dreamwear.

Thumper68 · Post by **Thumper68** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:19 am

realshelby wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:08 am

Thumper68 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:19 pm

4. It doesn't have a quick disconnect at the elbow. I like to leave the mask on and disconnect from the hose when I have to get up in the middle of the night.

I don't have one, yet, but everything I read and see about them shows a quick disconnect for the hose where it attaches to the headgear. Similar to Resmeds quick disconnect on some of their other masks, two plastic thingys you depress and it releases.

I do like the Dreamwear disconnect ( as long as you don't forget the little white piece in the hose and try to attach another mask to it....) as it is simple and easy. Probably better than the Resmed style. But with a bit of practice I am sure the Resmed will be seamless to use.

Well you and Djams are correct about the quick disconnect. It does indeed have one. Opps

markubig · Post by **markubig** » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:58 am

Just woke up from my first night with the N30i and I really like this mask. I move all over the place (back, side, stomach) and use a contoured pillow; so with the Dreamwear nasal cushion, my pillow will usually break the seal because it pushes on the mask ever so slightly. I eventually switched to the Dreamwear nasal pillow, which sealed better, but would move eventually throughout the night. Seems like the plastic front of the N30i holds the nasal cushion firmly enough so that it doesn't move when my pillow slightly nudges it.

Unlike the comments above, I actually feel that the N30i is a bit quieter and doesn't vent as harshly as the Dreamwear. Again when I'm on my side, either my pillow or my hand will be slightly in front of the mask, so with the Dreamwear, I commonly hear the venting hitting my hand or pillow and would have to adjust. That didn't happen with the N30i. In fact, it was something I so prominently noticed that it actually woke me up . . . LoL!

Again, it was only my first night, but a great first impression.

AMC4x4 · Post by **AMC4x4** » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:52 pm

I tried the N30i based on all the glowing reviews I read. For me, it was a dismal failure. My mask for the last several years has been the Swift LT (pillows). I often have nasal congestion that's far up in my sinuses that I think is more a function of how my sinuses are than any real congestion. If I lie on my right side and press against the side of my temple, the congestion goes away. Not sure why that is. When the CPAP pushes the pressure through my nostrils, it also mostly keeps the sinuses open. I've been looking for a mask that seals better since I often lose the pressure when turning in my sleep and I get leaks that the wife complains about.

So I tried the N30i and due to the pillow design, and the first thing I noticed was that it was quite a bit more noisy than the LT, as air escapes from the bottom *and* top of the mask. Also, it seemed as if my nostrils were being squeezed closed when lying on my side because the pressure distribution is different. Maybe it wasn't just for me, but all night I felt like I was suffocating.

The search for a better mask continues.

djams · Post by **djams** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:22 am

zonker wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:21 pm

djams wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 pm

I'll also point out that I'm bald, and the accordianed area of the headgear leaves me looking like a tractor drove over the top of my head in the morning. about this mask.
PICS or it didn't happen!!

Following up on this. I snapped this pic the day after you challenged me zonker. Stumbled across it going through the phone gallery this morning. Definitely need to prove that I'm not in here telling tall tales. See lower left corner of pic - and believe me, the pic doesn't do it justice.

I get up before my wife, and she heard the "shutter sound" my cell phone makes. I got accused of sending "pictures of your junk" to my "girlfriend".

As far as the N30i - it's a good mask, but for me it's been supplanted completely by the Bleep DreamPort - it's no contest. If you are interested in a mask that *can not* leak (provided it's used properly), and has no straps and makes no noise - check it out.

CelesteMcC · Post by **CelesteMcC** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:51 am

I'm an active (and mostly side) sleeper and it works really well for me, better than the Dreamwear did. It stays in place better. The differences are subtle but significant: the hose sits a bit more forward on my head; the headgear sits a bit lower on the back of my head, and the cushion is much better contoured to my nose (I did try all three and ended up with the small). It seals better. The cushion seals much better for me than the Dreamwear's did.

One caveat: I bobby-pin the back of the headgear to my hair. I can't feel them but it does help keep the mask in place. That said, I did the same with the Dreamwear but also had to make a ponytail and pull my hair through the back strap; I don't have to do that with the N30i. As with everything, your-mileage-may-vary.

babydinosnoreless · Post by **babydinosnoreless** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:04 am

silverpines wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:16 pm
I use the Dreamwear with a $12 Amazon.com hose hanger and it works well. No flopping around with the hose and I can turn over side to side. I plan to try the N30i. My only complaint with the Dreamwear is the straps on the back slide up during the night.

Someone posted a trick in another thread to keep the headgear from sliding arround. They wrapped vet wrap around it.

fmj13 · Post by **fmj13** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:41 pm

I use a Dreamwear - I keep it stable. Here's how, I use a Cabeau Midnight Magic eye mask that has velcro closure with no elastic. I had Padacheek made a velcro loop that surrounds the backstrap of my Dreamwear and my eye mask. I have never had a problem with it staying in place since.

https://www.cabeau.com/products/midnigh ... leep-mask/

tyrone747 · Post by **tyrone747** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:11 pm

Can you post a pic of your setup? Sounds interesting.

fmj13 · Post by **fmj13** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:43 am

tyrone747 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:11 pm
Can you post a pic of your setup? Sounds interesting.

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zorki1c · Post by **zorki1c** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:00 am

I used the P10 mask for several years. But I thrashed around quite a bit at night so I decided to give the N30i a try. Although it sounded like I was having more leaks than with the P10 I really wasn’t. I really like the mask and the connection on top because I almost forget that I have it on. The N30i also leaves less marks on my face. I thought I would need a large cushion like the P10 but turns out the small/wide works best. My wife had never found a mask she liked but tried the N30i and loves it.

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