Medical Marijuana

jwoceanside · Post by **jwoceanside** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:18 am

My RA has recommended Medical Marijuana, by the inhale method, due to severe chronic pain. I've been on it for 10 days

Was hoping for a better and longer sleep mode, but still only receiving 4-5 hours. Usually dispense a treatment hour or so before going to bed. The other numbers are satisfactory

Has anyone been treated accordingly and offer an opinion

Thanks
Jack

metsfan302 · Post by **metsfan302** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:57 am

I use too but it was not medical lol but I did inhale

There are many different types of stains in the diffrent types of Marijuana and each will serve a diffrent purpose/ health benefit

Indica vs. sativa vs. hybrid

Here are some links that might help you out.

https://www.leafly.com/news/strains-pro ... r-insomnia

https://www.healthline.com/health/medic ... our-strain

https://greencamp.com/marijuana-for-insomnia/

Am sure you can find others if you google Marijuana and sleep, those were just a few I had bookmarked. Now you got me wanting to go get my medical card since it’s avail in my state.

scott47 · Post by **scott47** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:19 am

I used to take Medical Marijuana for back pain but didn't like how high it made me feel...plus I'd have really bad paranoia if I smoked too much.

Now I am using Harlequin ("a 75/25 sativa-dominant strain renowned for its reliable expression of CBD."). The CBD portion really helps me feel better without any of the other issues I had with regular pot...

Traveljunkie · Post by **Traveljunkie** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:03 pm

I have used organic CBD oil with good success for leg pain due to sciatic issues. It took a few days for my system to respond, but the effects are great. You can adjust the dosage easily as well

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:38 pm

Treatments for pain may reduce pain to the point of keeping the pain from waking someone up. But the resulting sleep will not always be restful and efficient because of the impacts that most all medications have on sleep. Drugs involve trade offs. Almost always. Our medical teams are there to help us weigh the trade offs in order for us to make informed decisions.

The impacts of some drugs on sleep are well documented. With other drugs, not so much, for reasons both valid and invalid. Either way, that makes the risk-vs-benefits equations almost impossible to ascertain, especially when there are no real standardizations of potency and when reactions are, um, "highly" individual.

jpop · Post by **jpop** » Tue May 07, 2019 3:38 pm

I am experiencing some pretty positive results with some low dose 2.5mg THC edibles in the evenings. I've had several 0 AHI nights and all have been below 1 when I take these small gummies. Normally my AHI is in the 2-3 range, and I just feel a lot more well-rested using cannabis. There's a lot of chemistry going on behind the scenes so there is a tremendous amount that's strain related, and a set of non-medical "budtenders" making recommendations with information far less than scientific. So while there is much positive to be had here, your mileage may differ and it's every bit as much voodoo as it is real medicine. Fortunately, I am all legal now on this front and I'll be able to document what I have going on via sleepyhead and the logs.

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Tue May 07, 2019 3:43 pm

jpop wrote: ↑
Tue May 07, 2019 3:38 pm
. . . just feel a lot more well-rested . . .

Unfortunately, many things that can seriously damage our sleep can also give us a false sense of improved sleep. That can make anecdotal accounts more misleading than helpful. Alcohol is a prime example of that fact.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue May 07, 2019 4:18 pm

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babydinosnoreless · Post by **babydinosnoreless** » Tue May 07, 2019 4:23 pm

I lived in a state where recreational was legal I tried both the balance (equal amounts of cbd and thc ) and the elevate (higher thc) tinctures (Strainz brand) and it did nothing for my arthritis. I also tried cbd only. None of it ever felt like it did anything.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue May 07, 2019 5:15 pm

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑
Tue May 07, 2019 4:23 pm
I lived in a state where recreational was legal I tried both the balance (equal amounts of cbd and thc ) and the elevate (higher thc) tinctures (Strainz brand) and it did nothing for my arthritis. I also tried cbd only. None of it ever felt like it did anything.

But it is so nice when your placebos are legal.
Some of us don't even get a chance to try them.

babydinosnoreless · Post by **babydinosnoreless** » Tue May 07, 2019 6:03 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Tue May 07, 2019 5:15 pm

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑
Tue May 07, 2019 4:23 pm
I lived in a state where recreational was legal I tried both the balance (equal amounts of cbd and thc ) and the elevate (higher thc) tinctures (Strainz brand) and it did nothing for my arthritis. I also tried cbd only. None of it ever felt like it did anything.
But it is so nice when your placebos are legal.
Some of us don't even get a chance to try them.

True. I am now in a state where only medical is legal but I'm not willing to pay for a medical card when it doesn't help.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Wed May 08, 2019 8:56 am

jpop wrote: ↑
Tue May 07, 2019 3:38 pm
I've had several 0 AHI nights and all have been below 1 when I take these small gummies. Normally my AHI is in the 2-3 range, and I just feel a lot more well-rested using cannabis.

Has the improvement been in obstructive or central apneas?

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Wed May 08, 2019 10:50 am

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Wed May 08, 2019 8:56 am

jpop wrote: ↑
Tue May 07, 2019 3:38 pm
I've had several 0 AHI nights and all have been below 1 when I take these small gummies. Normally my AHI is in the 2-3 range, and I just feel a lot more well-rested using cannabis.
Has the improvement been in obstructive or central apneas?

Or is your emotion volume control just turned down. The effects are about the same.

tyrone747 · Post by **tyrone747** » Wed May 08, 2019 11:43 am

Careful with marijuana because it suppresses REM sleep. If you don't believe me smoke it for a long time then stop and watch the REM rebound hard.

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Wed May 08, 2019 12:02 pm

tyrone747 wrote: ↑
Wed May 08, 2019 11:43 am
Careful with marijuana because it suppresses REM sleep. If you don't believe me smoke it for a long time then stop and watch the REM rebound hard.

In support of your statement:

Low doses of THC (4 to 20 mg) mildly decreased REM sleep in both regular users and nonusers. Interestingly, deep sleep was increased when cannabis was initially used but this effect disappeared after repeated use. With high doses of THC (50 to 210 mg) REM sleep was decreased in both regular users and nonusers. Total sleep time was not affected but deep sleep was decreased. When THC was stopped some rebound in REM sleep was found with reduced sleep time and increased time to fall asleep. Some people do have withdrawal symptoms when stopping prolonged and heavy use of cannabis and this can adversely affect sleep. . . . Many sleeping medications, such as the benzodiazepines, convert deep sleep into lighter sleep, so that while the total amount of sleep may be modestly increased, it may not be of optimal quality. Certainly anyone who has used alcohol to help sleep knows that in the long run, it really doesn’t. In fact, while alcohol initially can make you drowsy and even increases deep sleep, it later causes sleep to be light and fragmented. -- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... -and-sleep

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