Hot Water in humidifier tank

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Hot Water in humidifier tank

Post by pedroski » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:48 am

The air coming out of my hose was too cold for me to sleep tonight, so I put hot water in the humidifier tank (H3i set on max), any dramas with doing that? I've ordered an Aussie heated hose, but until it arrives I thought I might do this?

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Post by Wulfman » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:59 am

Hi Peter,

I've read of people doing that.....kind of like pre-warming the water. However, I don't think you'd want to bring it to boiling temps.....might make the sensors in the unit wonder what the heck was going on.

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Post by pedroski » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:07 pm

Thanks Den,

I did boil it actually but found too much vapour coming up the pipe and didn't like it. I did like the nice warm air though. Tonight I'll warm the water but not boil it!

This is a great resource - something crops up and you want a quick answer - it's at night so you can't call your DME or a doc - but you can post to the forum and get an informed answer back in 11 minutes!! Now that's service!! Thanks again mate.

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Post by Guest » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:09 pm

This is a great resource - something crops up and you want a quick answer - it's at night so you can't call your DME or a doc - but you can post to the forum and get an informed answer back in 11 minutes!! Now that's service!! Thanks again mate.

You get an answer alright. Informed is another matter.

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The sad part is that so many will believe anything.

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Post by roster » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:40 pm

This is funny. I just got home from a meeting with a friend who keeps his distilled water in the refrigerator. He says the cold air blowing out of his passover humidifier helps him feel refreshed and relaxed and he falls asleep quickly.

So Peter, when will the Aussie's develop a refrigerated hose?


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Post by pedroski » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:45 pm

Hi Rooster,

That is funny. I felt like that in summer and enjoyed the cool air, but now that it's getting cold at night, it's just too cold for me, especially with a Swift it's just shooting straight up the schnoz.

A refrigerated hose eh??!!

Good one.

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Post by pedroski » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:48 pm

Thanks Tomjax,

I actually meant that the reply I got to this particular question came from Den, an informed poster.

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Post by Hurricane » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:57 am

Right on Peter, Den is one of the informed posters.
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Post by sharon1965 » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:24 am

sorry, taking a big chance commenting as an 'uninformed poster' here (tomjax, your staggering intellect must sometimes be a heavy cross to bear)...

about the hot water thing...are you using cold water (or distilled water) that has been boiled? just wondering, since as i'm sure you know, you should never drink hot tap water (not even or perhaps especially after boiling it) due to the lead content...i realize, of course, you're not drinking it, but would using it to humidify your cpap air be the same thing? i honestly don't know, just wondering for safety's sake...

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Post by Wulfman » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:36 am

rooster wrote:This is funny. I just got home from a meeting with a friend who keeps his distilled water in the refrigerator. He says the cold air blowing out of his passover humidifier helps him feel refreshed and relaxed and he falls asleep quickly.

So Peter, when will the Aussie's develop a refrigerated hose?
You guys talkin' 'bout me again?

I'm waiting for that refrigerated hose, too.

Maybe an insulated hose would help keep it cool, too.
Like the old "Thermos" commercial..... "Keeps hot things hot and cold things cold"......(but how does it know the difference?)


And to Sharon1965......maybe our resident physics and chemistry professor can answer your questions.

(actually, lead (and other "elements") would be too heavy to be carried to the user through the vapor from the HH)

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Post by tomjax » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:56 pm

Sharon 1965, your sarcastic remark was unwarranted and personal.

I made a general reference that all replies are not informed. I fail to understand your attitude to this truism.
In this, as other forums with many participants, there is an enormous variation in being informed and also making an informed reply.

Many newbies come here because they are not informed and are trying to learn.

Many who post replies also vary in the quality of their advice.
Some are clearly more knowledgeable, some from experience and some by a combination of experience and solid technical understanding.
A reasonable understanding of physics and biochemistry and technical proficiency provides a clear advantage.
Critical thinking and basic logic also helps.
High IQ and GPA do not necessarily make a better thinker.
Some will be uninformed, but this will never stop them from giving advice and answering questions that it is clear they do not know what they are talking about.
It is unfortunate that many will follow their black magic vodoo and believe it.
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Post by WearyOne » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:20 pm

Rooster, I want a refrigerated hose and a heated hose

As new as I still am to this, this will probably come across as a stupid question, but on the M series with heated humidifier, it has that little knob you turn from 0 to 5, 0 obviously being off. I'm assuming the knob is just for the heat. If you leave it on 0, are you still getting a pass-over type humidification? If so, I'd love to put some cold distilled water in there some time!

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Post by Wulfman » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:04 am

Pam,

Give it a try sometime. You'll still get some humidity. In three to four nights, my water level will drop about 3/4".

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Post by pedroski » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:10 am

Pam,

My understanding is that the reason for heating the humidifier tank is not to heat the air coming up the hose, but to allow more water vapour to be included in it. The higher temperature allows more humidity (humidified air) so you should still get some humidity, just not as much.

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Post by pedroski » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:15 am

Hi Sharon,

I have a filter system on our water but it is primarily intended to block cryptosporidium and Giardia and other nasties. It doesn't stop calcium etc so the informed posters here (whose advice and effort they go to to help newbies like myself I greatly appreciate) have advised me to only use distilled water in my humidifier.

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