Airsense 11 Reboot randomly

Recoil wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:37 am

If at all possible, please let me know your thoughts regarding my last night results. https://sleephq.com/public/0448a7a9-6e7 ... 54c0df6797

Really, they look great to me. How do you feel? FL's are tamed, leaks are fine.

vandownbytheriver wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:40 am

Recoil wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:37 am

If at all possible, please let me know your thoughts regarding my last night results. https://sleephq.com/public/0448a7a9-6e7 ... 54c0df6797

Really, they look great to me. How do you feel? FL's are tamed, leaks are fine.

Honestly, I got a little (ok maybe more) anxious when I saw the amount of CA's I had, but I looked at prior history of mine and there are days I have them and then there are day's I don't. Do you think the CAs were a result of the FF mask vs the pillows?

Recoil wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:56 am

Do you think the CAs were a result of the FF mask vs the pillows?

No.

Did you know it is normal to have an occasional central apnea? We all have them on occasion. They aren't a problem unless present in large numbers or causing desats or in the case of sleep onset centrals they are bouncing a person out of sleep.

You aren't having very many centrals and some of them you weren't even asleep when they were flagged.
But even if every single one of your centrals was the real deal and you were sound asleep you aren't having enough of them for any doctor to get all excited about them.....and not all your centrals are asleep centrals.

Why the worry so much about centrals? It's normal to have a few/handful of them anyway.

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:55 pm

Recoil wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:56 am

Do you think the CAs were a result of the FF mask vs the pillows?

No.

Did you know it is normal to have an occasional central apnea? We all have them on occasion. They aren't a problem unless present in large numbers or causing desats or in the case of sleep onset centrals they are bouncing a person out of sleep.

You aren't having very many centrals and some of them you weren't even asleep when they were flagged.
But even if every single one of your centrals was the real deal and you were sound asleep you aren't having enough of them for any doctor to get all excited about them.....and not all your centrals are asleep centrals.

Why the worry so much about centrals? It's normal to have a few/handful of them anyway.

The idea that my brain is not sending a "Breathe" signal freaks me out Should I give it another night with the Full face mask before switching to APAP mode?

Recoil wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:10 pm

The idea that my brain is not sending a "Breathe" signal freaks me out Should I give it another night with the Full face mask before switching to APAP mode?

Don't worry about it. There are many here who's brain isn't sending them the "Think" signal.

More seriously, switching over to APAP is not big deal. You're almost obsessing over it.

Here's what you can do, to give APAP a try, somewhat anxiety free.

You're currently on straight pressure of 14cm.

Change to APAP mode, but set your min to 14 and your max to 15. The difference between 14 and 15 is not really distinguishable.

Try that our for a night or two, prove to yourself, it's almost identical in feel.

Then, if we see your trace is moving to 15, we know that there is occasion where we could use more pressure. Also if we see that the trace is flat-lining at 14, we know that we can reduce out minimum pressure.

One of the disadvantages that Lefty and his sycophants don't understand is; when using APAP, not only are we benefiting from treatment, but we are continuous titrating ourselves. We can look at our traces and adjust our pressures should our current needs not be enough, *or too much*. This isn't possible with CPAP.

Pressure titration is not one-and-done. And titration in a foreign lab environment is flawed because we don't sleep naturally there.

Right now you're pressure is at 14. Let's say 12, 13 or 15 (or some value in that range is more optimal. There isn't anyone here that can look at your trace and say, hey 13 is more optimum.

But, if you were at 12-15, there are many here who could look at your trace and easily and correctly conclude that your minimum was too low (or high). And as an added bonus, if your needs very because of REM, position, ill-health, anxiety, medication. Pressure can change to treat you better, than fixed ever can.

This is the stuff Lefty and his sycophants don't or won't talk about. All they do is compare fixed to a horribly misconfigured APAP and say APAP sucks, look at the results.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:39 pm

This is the stuff Lefty and his sycophants don't or won't talk about. All they do is compare fixed to a horribly misconfigured APAP and say APAP sucks, look at the results.

Here I must take issue! Jason is well thought-of around here!

The fact remains that to increase pressure, APAP requires a disturbed waveform or a snore. You can decide whether you want a disturbed waveform or not. The answer is clear to me... you're doing fine. Folks around here like diddling with their pressures... feel free to join them if you like. Set a 1cm-wide range and watch it go up and down.

vandownbytheriver wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:02 pm

Jason is well thought-of around here!

Around here? Is that down by the river?

Here is night 2 of being on the new 16 pressure and using the Full Face Mask. Looks like I had a large leak last night but my AHI was still good. Do the results still look good? https://sleephq.com/public/94115806-b93 ... 01dafd7ddc

If those leaks didn't wake you up then I wouldn't worry about the large leak. It was rather brief in the grand scheme of things.

On paper...you look good.
More important than just numbers is how you feel and how you slept.

If you are sleeping good and feeling good then I wouldn't worry about the "numbers" because the numbers alone don't mean much. Your body will tell you how you are doing.

Thanks Pugs! The past couple of mornings I have woken up with a little headache, but I think I'm not drinking enough water during the day. But I have plenty of energy during the day, am able to workout an hour each day, and I am able to fall asleep pretty easily once the mask goes on. I tend to overthink things anyway though lol.

Recoil wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:46 am

I have plenty of energy during the day, am able to workout an hour each day, and I am able to fall asleep pretty easily once the mask goes on. I tend to overthink things anyway though lol.

Sometimes we all "over think" things on occasion.
I totally understand because I think we all want to have this therapy as optimal as possible. After all (at least to my mind) I figure if I am going to just have to wear this stuff on my face that I want to do the best job possible.
It took me quite a while to get passed "the numbers thing" and instead focus more on how I slept and felt.

We don't sleep the same each night and that's going to mess with the numbers a little. As long as my overall AHI is 2.0 or less I don't even bat an eyelash when just looking at numbers. Some of that AHI might be real asleep event flagging but I have learned that the bulk of any AHI I might see is going to be 75% false positive flagging or awake/arousal event flagging.
I know this because I evaluate the flow rate when I do look at the zoomed in breathing and I already know that I have a higher than usual number of arousals which sometimes I remember and sometimes I don't. I have other medical issues that mess with my sleep quality.

I would kill to be able to say that I fall asleep easily and feel like I sleep great and felt like doing 1 hour of exercise.
The cpap machine fixes one problem only and that is the airway problem. When we have other sleep problems besides the airway problem the machine can do diddly squat no matter how much we might expect or want it to.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:28 am

vandownbytheriver wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:02 pm

Jason is well thought-of around here!

Around here? Is that down by the river?

'Around here' has kind of gone to 'the dogs', eh?

vandownbytheriver wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:02 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:39 pm

This is the stuff Lefty and his sycophants don't or won't talk about. All they do is compare fixed to a horribly misconfigured APAP and say APAP sucks, look at the results.

Here I must take issue! Jason is well thought-of around here!

The fact remains that to increase pressure, APAP requires a disturbed waveform or a snore. You can decide whether you want a disturbed waveform or not. The answer is clear to me... you're doing fine. Folks around here like diddling with their pressures... feel free to join them if you like. Set a 1cm-wide range and watch it go up and down.

You can take as much issue as you want. But you're wrong (in degree and relevance). I could explain to you why, but you've demonstrated, you don't understand the important nuances between CPAP and APAP.

All you accept is what you see on Jason or Nicks video's and then you accept it unconditionally without applying any critical thinking.

However, if anyone else is interested, just ask.