Choosing a replacement cpap

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Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by Bookbear » Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:57 pm

My trusty ResMed Airsense 10 is nearing the end of it's life (6 years+) I have the chance of a substantial discount on either an Airsense 10 or Airsense 11, the difference is only $100. (Note that I pay out of pocket for everything cpap, machine and supplies, so I am not concerned with reporting to a higher authority.)

For anyone with recent experience with both machines, what differences did you notice between the two? I am particularly interested in any functional therapeutic differences, pro or con, between the two. Do you feel better with one or the other? How about ease of making changes in therapy options for the 11?

Finally, a specific question about the 11: On the 10, I can see the nightly summary of results on the machine's screen, and the full report is available via download from the SD card. I understand that neither is possible on the 11, is this correct? If so, how would I see the summary report? And how are the more complete reports made available?

One more thing... is there any word from ResMed on how long the 10 will continue to be available? Has production ceased?

Thanks in advance, and good sleep to you all!
Mark (19 years of good sleep with cpap)

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by Pugsy » Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:03 pm

Bookbear wrote:
Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:57 pm
On the 10, I can see the nightly summary of results on the machine's screen, and the full report is available via download from the SD card. I understand that neither is possible on the 11, is this correct?
I have used the AirSense 10 AutoSet and I currently use the AirCurve 10 Auto but I also gave the AirSense 11 AutoSet a try last December. I have a raging headache at the moment so I don't feel like going and digging out the AirSense 11 and check to see what is available on the machine's LCD screen but I am pretty sure I saw the same summary report I see on my AirCurve 10.
Tomorrow when I feel better I will go dig it out of the closet and fire it up to confirm.
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Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:57 pm
One more thing... is there any word from ResMed on how long the 10 will continue to be available? Has production ceased?
Haven't heard anything but that doesn't mean much.

The only real advantage IMHO for the AirSense 11 AutoSet is that it comes with the for Her auto adjusting algorithm built in so it has 3 modes of operation...cpap, auto, for Her Auto.
If someone does better with the For Her Algorithm that might be a great thing but I don't know that it is a deal breaker or not. I tried that algorithm back in Dec along with the regular algorithm and I couldn't really see much difference......but for someone else it might be a big advantage.

I don't like the AirSense 11 model touch screen but that's me. I really don't like change of any kind. :lol: :lol:
There is no clock on the 11 model series. The only thing you can adjust is the time zone and then you have to erase all past data for it to let you change time zone. So if having the clock exactly correct is important....that's a fairly important deal.

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by jsmit86 » Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:05 pm

As far as the therapy, they are identical. The 11 adds the "for her" algorythm, if you think you may need that.

Both are excellent machines.

The 10 is tried and true. It's a little larger than the 11. Both are very quiet.
The original water tub on the 10 had a tendency to leak around the seam. The newer tub does not have that problem. The 10 has a dial/knob to make adjustments. it also has a elbow built in to the heated tubing.
The 10 is black in color.
The 10 uses a barrel power connector. Some users, myself included have had some issue with the connector not always working properly. This is NOT COMMON, but it's not unheard of.

The 11 is bit smaller. The water tub has the same capacity as the 10, but is a less user friendly design. The motor is smaller, actually it's the same one used in the air mini. So far no reports of it having any less lifespan.
The 11 uses a touch screen interface. No issue for me, but some users prefer the knob on the 10.
The 11 can receive over the air software updates, the 10 cannot.
The 11 is white in color. I like the power connector on the 11 better. It looks similar to a USB A, but is not actually a USB A, just a similar style.

If you will travel with the machine, the 11 is a bit smaller to carry around.

I recently replaced my first 11, due to an unsual problem where the tubs leaked water. It seemd to have possibly been related to the heater plate. This is not common. I stayed with the 11 because I had some hoses for it, and I like the power connection better.

As far as data they both can use SD cards, but you have to supply that. The data can be exported to Oscar or Sleep HQ.
There is a detailed data setting available for both machines, and IIRC, that has to be enabled maybe in the clinical menu.
The menu settings work the same way.

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by Sheriff Buford » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:13 am

I have used the 11 since April of 2023, after going thru maybe 2 Airsense 10's. I have no druthers between the two. I do have trouble seeing the S11 screen, but my eyesight is going out anyway. As part of the summary report, I downloaded the Resmed Myair app, which has Bluetooth capabilities. I can look at the basic data and be on my way, which is convenient. If I had to buy another machine, I would probably get the 11.

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by Bookbear » Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:31 am

Thanks to all three of you for the prompt replies, much appreciated! :D
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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by Fed1 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:58 pm

I used the Airsense 10 five years recently got the Airsense 11. Imo the 10 is better

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by Bookbear » Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:46 pm

Seems to be the general opinion. Thanks!

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by ejbpesca » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:34 pm

I prefer my AS10 over the AS11. The AS 10 seems more sturdy, and has a better heated tube connection. Started with a Respironics machine, then AS 10, AS 11, and back to AS 10.

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Re: Choosing a replacement cpap

Post by jsmit86 » Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:47 pm

Both machines have advangages and disadvantages.

My original Airsense 10 developed a problem about one year in. The auto start and stop quit working, and then even with that feature turned off, I was waking up starving for air. It was not caused by a leak. Resmed first attempted a repair, and then finaly replaced it months later. (I used my Z2 Auto travel CPAP while I was waiting.) The replacement Airsense 10 machine was fine for the most part. I had a lot of problems with leaking water chambers that were the old style with the square bottom. Once they changed the style to the circular plate and no seam on the outside, no more issues with that.
This is my backup machine now, and my only small complaint is that the power connector is flaky. You have to plug it in and out and kind of wiggle it sometimes to get the machine to power up. Once you do that it continues to work fine.

I got an Airsense 11 in 2022 as my Airsense 10 was getting on in age, and at the time I was dealing with the water chamber issues.
I worked fine for about a year and a half, and developed a strange problem with water chamber leaks, which is not common with this model.
I was not abusing the chambers, I first used distilled water, then RO waster, etc... the problem kept happening. An addition there was an odd electrical smell when those leaks happened. I was out of warranty, but I had Resmed check the machine. They could not explain why I was having issues with the water chamber, but they said the inside of the machine was contaminated, but not what that was. There was no mold smell, or any other evidence that was visible. I suspect that there was some issue with the heater plate that was causing the issue. My DME thought that was probaly the case.

As I posted before, I ended up going with the Airsense 11 again primarily because I had the heated hose for it already, and the power connector is more sturdy.
So far on the new unit I am not having any problem with the water chambers. I also do like the fact that I can sync MyAir via Bluetooth without waiting for the cellular update.

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