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REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by jimfred99 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:36 pm

I have just gotten a REMstar Pro C-Flex plus. This seems to have been replaced with the AutoIQ system. Is there any real difference that I should be complaining about not getting the newer model.

More importantly, I use to have an M-series machine for which I have a Battery Kit with Universal 12 Volt DC Cable. The power plug on this cable does not fit the new machine. The new machine has a much bigger plug. When I look at DC cable being offered for the C-Flex Plus, it indicates that it is a cable which also work for the M-series. When I talked with someone at CPAP.com, they thought that there was another place on the machine where the DC plugged (on the back side?). I can't find this or any indication of it in the pamphlet.

Does anyone know how I get a plug for the Cflex plus or an adapter to use it?
Thanks, Jim

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by Sloop » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:53 pm

Not knowing how you intend to hook up to your battery, this kit should suffice for any situation.

http://1800cpap.com/respironics-shielde ... -cord.aspx

My battery source is a jump-start battery that has a cigarette socket out put for accessory equipment. So I only need the cable/plug part of the kit.
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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by greatunclebill » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:39 pm

your machine looks like my old 2001 era remstar plus whatever it was. if it is the same layout, the12v adapter was inside the machine so 120v went directly into the machine. there was a little hole directly to the right of the 120v plugin where a 12v plug could be plugged in.

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by jimfred99 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:32 pm

I appreciate the responses. There seems to be something different about this new machine. The power plug is larger than the other REMstar machine that I've have. I don't know if this is unique to the REMstar PRO C-flex plus.
Here is a picture of the old dc adapter plug and the machine power port. The plug is is too small to fit.
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The upper plug is for the CPAP. The lower plug is my old DC adapter plug.
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Any help would be appreciated. Jim

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:57 am

Can you look on the bottom of your machine and tell us what model number you see?
DS 450 or 460?

I believe that the 460 needs special connector as the older ones won't work. This one works with M series and PR System one series machines BUT NOT the 60 series machine. So I as asking model number to eliminate the 60 series from things.
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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by jimfred99 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:53 pm

I think Pugsy may be in the right direction with the note about the 60 series.

The adapter cable that I have right now seems to be the same as the ones in the links which both Pugsy and Sloop have provided. These adapters are for the M-series. The second link in Sloop's last comment states that the DC power cord will not work with the new Respironics DS560 or DS460 units.

The model number is not clearly specified on my machine, but it does give REF 460P, so it is probably this newer 60 series. I can not find any links to a DC Power Cord for the 60 series. I can find the link to the regular power supply for my CPAP https://www.cpap.com/productpage/60-wat ... m-one.html.

I would appreciate help in finding this power cord.
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Jim

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by greatunclebill » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:30 pm

jimfred99 wrote:The model number is not clearly specified on my machine, but it does give REF 460P, so it is probably this newer 60 series.[/url].
Jim
460P is the exact model number. it is a 60 series machine as opposed to my 50 series, 550P.

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by jimfred99 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Everyone who has reponded. I greatly appreciate the input . It helped me to verify that I have the 60 series and that I needed to find the DC power cord for those machine. I was able to locate one site which is carrying them at:
http://www.cpapxchange.com/1097568-dc-p ... bipap.html

The website also includes a number of way of identifying the 60 series. I have order one.
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Jim

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:51 pm

I believe our forum host cpap.com also carries that item for the 60 series machine.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/dc-pow ... hines.html
For future reference if anyone else using the 60 series machine is looking.

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by martini » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:47 am

The move by Respironics to the proprietary 12vdc connector on the REMSTAR DS460, DS560 models is insidious, but there is a more significant problem. Since the gas crunch, airlines have been dropping pressure altitude setting in long duration flights to 8000 feet or higher. Staying awake with the severely reduced oxygen level at that altitude equivalent is next to impossible.. For people like me whose O2 saturation drops to the 66% levels, it is a death sentence.
I built a LiIon battery pack that provided 10hrs of use in flight with my old ResMed Cpap machine. My doctor however talked me into a Remstar Series M some years ago. It nearly cost me my life. I stupidly assumed that the device would be MORE EFFICIENT instead of less. I did not test the Battery Pack-REMSTAR combo until I was on the way to Europe. When I Plugged the Remstar in, the Battery Pack shut down... No way to restart without plugging its charger into 115vac.. No got on an airplane except the 400cyle outlet in the Johns, and I was not wanting to risk a LiIon packs catching fire trying that out.
Despite bitterly complaining to my Sleep Specialist Doctor, who had no clue such a problem existed for CPAP users, He suggested I use another machine and sent me to a "durable medical Provider". He talked me into purchasing the new REMSTAR DS560. Nice small package, but to my horror, when I read the data, it uses 6.7AMP STEADY STATE... that is over twice what the M Series used... God only knows what the turn on transient current surge is on that.. My battery pack only outputs 4 AMPS.
What is REALLY SICK, is that I cannot get anyone at PHILLIPS nor RESPIRONICS to tell me what the numbers are. That 6/7AMPS steady state current may be with the Heated Humidifier.. and NOBODY knows a damn things about Turn-On Transient currents.
WHAT A WAY TO RUN A RAILROAD...

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Re: REMstar C flex plus DC cable

Post by CapnLoki » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:59 am

martini wrote: Despite bitterly complaining to my Sleep Specialist Doctor, who had no clue such a problem existed for CPAP users, He suggested I use another machine and sent me to a "durable medical Provider". He talked me into purchasing the new REMSTAR DS560. Nice small package, but to my horror, when I read the data, it uses 6.7AMP STEADY STATE... that is over twice what the M Series used... God only knows what the turn on transient current surge is on that.. My battery pack only outputs 4 AMPS.
What is REALLY SICK, is that I cannot get anyone at PHILLIPS nor RESPIRONICS to tell me what the numbers are. That 6/7AMPS steady state current may be with the Heated Humidifier.. and NOBODY knows a damn things about Turn-On Transient currents.
WHAT A WAY TO RUN A RAILROAD...
The 6.7 Amp number is wrong - it may be the equivalent of the 80 Watt AC supply used with heated tube humidifier setup. In other words, the absolute worst case plus a margin of error. Without a humidifier, the 560 typically uses well under an Amp; I figure about 6 Amp-hours a night when I run it from my boat battery with an average pressure of 8-9. The "startup current" is probably minimal - I don't see any spike when I plug it in.

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