System one heated humidifier tube manual?

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System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by troubs » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:06 pm

My DME gave me the PR System One humidifier with a heated tube, but they forgot to give me the manual. I am trying to find it but no luck. Anyone have a link? Phillips website is hard to navigate.

Basically I am trying to find out if it is still ok to use a cover on the tube or is it bad for heated tubes. I like the comfy soft fleece cover I made and want to keep using it.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by troubs » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:41 am

Hah, looks like someone else asked this same question. Sorry!

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by BasementDwellingGeek » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:42 am

Just my opinion but, if your crank the heated hose all they down to off there should not be a problem with heat buildup.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by troubs » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:43 am

So last night, it seems the heated hose never turned on and the setting to turn it on is locks in Setup. Pugsy, would you be willing to PM me that manual as well? If it isn't too much trouble.

The red humidifier symbol switched right over to blue.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:10 am

You should have the link by now. I see that my PM to you has been opened. Let me know if the link is not working or if you need something else. That is the only link I have for a 60 series machine.

These instructions here might also help you figure out how to get to the clinical setup area.
http://www.apneaboard.com/pr-system-one ... structions
It has some pictures as well as text to help you understand where you are going and what you are doing.

The most common error that people make when trying to access the clinical set up menu is that they don't hold the buttons down long enough...have to wait till it beeps...it sure seems like longer than 5 seconds to me.

Did I send you information on EncoreBasic (I forget if I did or not) software so you can see your reports. If I didn't send it to you...send me a private message and I will get it to you.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by troubs » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:46 am

Yes I got the encore basic, thanks, works great.

I did go into the clinical setup menu but the "heated humidifier tube" setting still shows a locked icon even in that menu. Any ideas? If not I guess I can call the DME and have them come out, but I would like to avoid that.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by Pugsy » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:28 pm

I haven't seen a 60 series machine to play with settings.
Assuming you have the heated hose connected properly (without a heated hose you can't access that portion)
you might try turning the Lock System One thing to the Off position. When it is in the On position the patient is locked out of making changes and accessing certain features.
Otherwise maybe someone who has a 60 series machine could play with theirs to see what is needed.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by troubs » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:54 pm

Well, I did look, thanks for the suggestion. Alas, the lock was already off. Thanks for trying anyway! I don't know why that and the tubing type are the only things locked when nothing else is. It is weird.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by Pugsy » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:08 pm

So sorry. If no one can come up with a solution then I guess you need to give the DME a call.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by sol » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:11 pm

From PRS1 manual
• Tubing type lock - This enables you to lock the Tubing type setting for either the 15 mm or the 22 mm tubing if you do not want the patient to change it.
Note: If locked, the patient will still see this setting with a lock symbol ( ) next to it, but they will not be able to change it.
Note: This will not prevent the user from using Heated Tubing at a later date.
• Tubing type - This setting allows you to select the correct size diameter tubing that you are using with the device. You can choose either (22) for the Philips Respironics 22 mm tubing, or (15) for the optional Philips Respironics 15 mm tubing. When using Heated Tubing, the device will automatically change this setting to the appropriate tubing type (15H).

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by troubs » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:45 am

I am suspicious that they made it harder to change settings. My DME mentioned that they used to have problems with "mostly men" who would "get into their machines and change their pressures" so now there is "only one way to get into the machine, there used to be more".... Kind of curious what the really meant.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:17 pm

troubs wrote:My DME mentioned that they used to have problems with "mostly men" who would "get into their machines and change their pressures" so now there is "only one way to get into the machine, there used to be more".... Kind of curious what the really meant.
There's always only been one way to get into the Respironics clinical menus. Methods varied with models but always only one way. They might think that if they lock you out of the clinical setup area that it will keep you out but there isn't a "super lock" that overrides the standard hold the buttons down for 5 seconds thing.
Bluff or BS or whatever you want to call it.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by squid13 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:28 pm

troubs wrote:Basically I am trying to find out if it is still ok to use a cover on the tube or is it bad for heated tubes. I like the comfy soft fleece cover I made and want to keep using it.
I keep a cover on my climate line all year long and have no problems with the tube.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:46 pm

I don't know about the hose cozy on the 60 series hose.
I know it is okay for the Climateline but when I had my stand alone heated hose it wasn't advised because they said things would be uncomfortably warm...and they were right.
I would think that one needs to try it to see if the hose cozy insulates so much that too much warmth is produced
and/or try to find out from Respironics if it is okay or not. ResMed promotes a hose cozy for the Climateline...but we don't know if same thing is okay for the 60 series just yet. I haven't read anything one way or the other.

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Re: System one heated humidifier tube manual?

Post by sol » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:04 pm

Pugsy wrote:ResMed promotes a hose cozy for the Climateline...but we don't know if same thing is okay for the 60 series just yet.
Could you please tell me where did you see the Resmed promotion of a hose cozy for the climateline ... Thanks

I,m under the impression you don,t need a hose cosy for the climateline or tuck the hose under bed covers ... the wires in the heated hose designed to provide constant temp so it helps to insulate the hose from the outside and prevent rainout. Hose cosy will act as another form of insulation