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Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by Country4ever » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:44 pm

I'm using a slimline tube tonight instead of my usual regular one. I've changed it on the set-up. (I learned that one the hard way!)
Will it feel any different?
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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:51 pm

Not that it specifically relates to your case (more just a point of interest), but for some reason the Slimline I got with my ResMed S9 Adapt (ASV w/moderate pressures topping at 20cmH20) won't work correctly. I've only had good performance with the ClimateLine MAX... never a problem with that heavy duty hose. You could blow up eighteen wheeler tires with it.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/climat ... d-h5i.html

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by palerider » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:07 pm

Country4ever wrote:I'm using a slimline tube tonight instead of my usual regular one. I've changed it on the set-up. (I learned that one the hard way!)
Will it feel any different?
Thanks.
the *only* difference to the slimline tubing is that it's lighter, less tube, less weight. there's a different setting in the machine because the flow characteristics are different due to the smaller hose (bit more resistance) it cuts down the max lpm the flow generator can produce, ie, @12 cm, with standard tubing, you can get 200lpm, with the slimline, 184.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by squid13 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:47 pm

I'm using the S9 VPAP Adapt auto 36037 and I put a climate line max on it but I notice there is no where to change the tube size, I've been through all the menus and can't find anything.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by palerider » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:16 pm

squid13 wrote:I'm using the S9 VPAP Adapt auto 36037 and I put a climate line max on it but I notice there is no where to change the tube size, I've been through all the menus and can't find anything.
check page 16 of the clinicians manual, it's the second option under the circuit menu, right below 'mask type', options are SlimLine/Standard/3m however, it's possible with the climateline the machine goes "oh, I know what's attached to me" and doesn't present the option in the menu.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by squid13 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:41 pm

palerider wrote:check page 16 of the clinicians manual, it's the second option under the circuit menu, right below 'mask type', options are SlimLine/Standard/3m however, it's possible with the climateline the machine goes "oh, I know what's attached to me" and doesn't present the option in the menu.
I already did that and it's not there in the machine. I took it out of auto and put it in ASV and it's not there either. Ok I unhooked the climate line and the tube option shows up,I hooked the climate line up and the window shows the box with the climate line and then disappears and the tube option is gone. I guess the machine doesn't care if you use a 15 mm climate line or a 19mm climate line when using a climate line.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by palerider » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:20 pm

squid13 wrote:
palerider wrote:check page 16 of the clinicians manual, it's the second option under the circuit menu, right below 'mask type', options are SlimLine/Standard/3m however, it's possible with the climateline the machine goes "oh, I know what's attached to me" and doesn't present the option in the menu.
I already did that and it's not there in the machine. I took it out of auto and put it in ASV and it's not there either. Ok I unhooked the climate line and the tube option shows up,I hooked the climate line up and the window shows the box with the climate line and then disappears and the tube option is gone. I guess the machine doesn't care if you use a 15 mm climate line or a 19mm climate line when using a climate line.
I imagine it talks to the hose in some fasion and knows whether it's a slim or fat climateline... since the hose size does matter to the pressure calc.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by squid13 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:52 pm

I think what you do is select your hose size before you hook up the climate line, at least that's what I did. I selected Standard then hooked up my climate line.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by palerider » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:30 pm

squid13 wrote:I think what you do is select your hose size before you hook up the climate line, at least that's what I did. I selected Standard then hooked up my climate line.
well... obviously the system knows you hooked up the climateline, because the humidifier settings and such change, not to mention the tube setting going away.

logically.. (there I go again, making guesses) the system would be able to tell which type of climateline it is, since it does make a difference.

but, since it takes away the option, we'll never know unless one of the gnomes from resmed deigns to tell us

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:44 pm

Even if the connections look the same, the internal wiring is probably different--
different leads may be wired together to tell the computer what hose is being used.
Some earlier PC's had features built in, but not activated until you bought a plug in dongle--
essentially a strategic jump wire that activates a hidden circuit.

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by hyperlexis » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:23 am

palerider wrote:
squid13 wrote:I think what you do is select your hose size before you hook up the climate line, at least that's what I did. I selected Standard then hooked up my climate line.
well... obviously the system knows you hooked up the climateline, because the humidifier settings and such change, not to mention the tube setting going away.

logically.. (there I go again, making guesses) the system would be able to tell which type of climateline it is, since it does make a difference.

but, since it takes away the option, we'll never know unless one of the gnomes from resmed deigns to tell us
I don't know about the Resmeds but for the PR machines, there is only the smaller diameter tubing used for the heated tube. So when you plug it in, there is no choice given between regular or slimline. The option is greyed out. Only for unheated tubes can you set one or the other. Are you saying that on Resmeds there are two diameter sizes of climateline hoses? Sounds odd that they would sell two versions.

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Post by palerider » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:06 am

hyperlexis wrote: I don't know about the Resmeds but for the PR machines, there is only the smaller diameter tubing used for the heated tube. So when you plug it in, there is no choice given between regular or slimline. The option is greyed out. Only for unheated tubes can you set one or the other. Are you saying that on Resmeds there are two diameter sizes of climateline hoses? Sounds odd that they would sell two versions.
https://www.cpap.com/productSearch.php? ... limateline

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by Country4ever » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:18 am

Back to my original question about there being any difference between a regular and a slimline (not heated) tube. I used the slimline for the first time last night and woke up with tachycardia, anxiety, and an extreme amount of air in my stomach.
I'm thinking this probably had nothing to do with using the slimline, but thought I'd ask. Surely, the pressure is all the same, right? (yes, I changed the menu to slimline tubing).

I looked at Sleepyhead this morning, thinking it might show some problems right before I woke up, but it didn't.
All this might have been totally unrelated to changing tubes, right?

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by palerider » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:33 am

Country4ever wrote:Back to my original question about there being any difference between a regular and a slimline (not heated) tube. I used the slimline for the first time last night and woke up with tachycardia, anxiety, and an extreme amount of air in my stomach.
see this: viewtopic/p916487/Slimline-versus-regul ... ml#p916346

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Re: Slimline versus regular tubing much different?

Post by Country4ever » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:58 am

Maybe I'm dense........but you linked me back to this thread. My machine has the option of slimline or regular.
It is not a heated hose slimline.
I'm wanting to know if anyone has used both, and has noticed a difference.

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