General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
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Roger2
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by Roger2 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:41 am
BlackSpinner wrote:Tylenol is very toxic for your liver and it is easy to overdose on it.
Interesting this should come up; my primary care physician told me the same thing this morning after moaning and groaning about my miserable cold to make sure it does not turn out to be another round of pneumonia. Unfortunately Tylenol is the only thing besides Oxycodone I can take because of the blood thinner I am on. That is a little too much for a sore throat but the Doc said if I don’t use more than two or three 500mg tabs a day it should work fine. Most of the medications I take affect my liver so I do have to be a little cautious about what I take.
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OutaSync
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by OutaSync » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:12 am
JohnBFisher wrote:purple wrote:... What the public needs is a Medic Alert that shows date/time/amount of last insulin shot as well as carb intake for the last few hours. ...
That's a GREAT idea.
I can probably get a note added to my MedicAlert record to check my phone. I keep my diabetic logbook on my cellphone. That provides carb counts, insulin dosages, the last blood glucose, exercise, B/P values, A1c values, etc. Hmmm...
I will also need to train my wife to tell first responders to check my cellphone.
Again, purple, that's a WONDERFUL idea. Thank you for the suggestion.
John, do you mind sharing what app you use for that? I think that is a terrific idea for diabetics to have that info with them at all times.
Diagnosed 9/4/07
Sleep Study Titrated to 19 cm H2O
Rotating between Activa and Softgel
11/2/07 RemStar M Series Auto with AFlex 14-17
10/17/08 BiPAP Auto SV 13/13-23, BPM Auto, AHI avg <1
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JohnBFisher
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by JohnBFisher » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:00 pm
OutaSync wrote:JohnBFisher wrote:purple wrote:... What the public needs is a Medic Alert that shows date/time/amount of last insulin shot as well as carb intake for the last few hours. ...
That's a GREAT idea.
I can probably get a note added to my MedicAlert record to check my phone. I keep my diabetic logbook on my cellphone. That provides carb counts, insulin dosages, the last blood glucose, exercise, B/P values, A1c values, etc. Hmmm...
I will also need to train my wife to tell first responders to check my cellphone.
Again, purple, that's a WONDERFUL idea. Thank you for the suggestion.
John, do you mind sharing what app you use for that? I think that is a terrific idea for diabetics to have that info with them at all times.
I have an Android smartphone. I actually use two different apps as my electronic log book. Neither is perfect, so I use both to get both sets of features. The first is Glucool. The second is OnTrack. The price is right (=free) on both - at least when I got them.
Additionally, Diabetes Pilot should be coming out with an Android version of their iPhone app.
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OutaSync
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by OutaSync » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:14 pm
Thanks, John. I have a niece who was diagnosed with Type 1 on her 14th birthday after 2 days in ICU. Her A1C was 14!!!!
Having an app to keep track would be fun for her. Okay, maybe not fun, but helpful.
Diagnosed 9/4/07
Sleep Study Titrated to 19 cm H2O
Rotating between Activa and Softgel
11/2/07 RemStar M Series Auto with AFlex 14-17
10/17/08 BiPAP Auto SV 13/13-23, BPM Auto, AHI avg <1
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lee_leses
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by lee_leses » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:31 pm
I have to update this thread.
Sleep apnea is so complicated, and there are SO many variables that can all affect how you sleep on any given night.
It's looking like the Tylenol may be helping me to sleep longer.
But, I figured out, it's also waking me up when my mask leaks during the night. Finding an interface that works for me has proven extremely challenging. The only mask I seem to be able to fall asleep wearing so far is the breeze headgear, the nasal mask that has no straps at all on your face. And, I started taping my mouth shut to address that leak source. But after I still was only sleeping 1 to 1.5 hours at a time, I tried adding even more tape, 1" tape that goes under the bottom of the nasal pillows assembly and then up the sides of my nose. With that tape added, the mask is held into my nose like gang busters.
With the mask super secured to my face, I am finally seeing data showing I am sleeping 3, 4 or even 5 hours at a time! But the best seems to be when I take Tylenol and super secure the mask.
This should not be this hard!
I make tiny changes at a time. I need to study different masks and without Tylenol to find the exact factors that wake me up, and what works.
Last night I slept 5 hours and then 4.5 hours. When I woke up after the first 5 hours, I took more Tylenol. Every other way, I only sleep 1 to 1.5 hours, or I sleep 3-5 the first time I go to sleep and the rest of the night 1 to 1.5 at a time.
Anyone have any thoughts, similar experiences, or ideas?
Lee B.
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by Pugsy » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:46 pm
lee_leses wrote:Sleep apnea is so complicated, and there are SO many variables that can all affect how you sleep on any given night.
This is so very true and there is so much more to feeling better than just slapping a mask on or face and turning on the machine. For some of us sleep is very fragile for any number of reasons. We just have to keep plugging away at things till we get some semblance of normal sleep. Or as normal as it can be with all this gear strapped on us.
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lee_leses
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by lee_leses » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:27 pm
I wish there was a *like* button on here. I like your post!
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by moresleep » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:50 pm
Years back when I had a bruxism problem, my dentist recommended that I try one Ibuprofen before sleep. I think it did help.
Not for everyone, but these days, I find that a cup of black tea before bed helps me sleep better and with a lower AHI.
Apparently, the caffeine and theophyline stimulate my breathing reflexes.
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lee_leses
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by lee_leses » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:10 pm
That is on point. The caffine would open up your lungs, but for me it would also keep me awake!
I think taking the Albuterol inhaler before bed also helps me sleep by keeping my lungs open.
Lee
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by johniiee » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:24 am
Tylenol does help you sleep. It is NOT because it reduces pain. It may be a function of relaxation or some other undocumented feature of Tylenol. Tylenol does reduce pain but I don't believe that is the reason it helps you sleep. I have taken other pain medications and they do not help me sleep better. I have used tylenol when I have no pain and it helps me sleep better.
I typically will wake up after 3 or so hours primarily because of needing to pee. After peeing I have tried to get back to sleep. At this point an 8 hour sleeping pill would leave me in bad shape in the morning and is inappropriate. I have taken melatonin. Doesn't work especially if I used it earlier in the night to fall asleep the first time. If I don't take tylenol regardless of my pain level (normally no pain) I will not fall asleep again easily and will stay up for a while. If I don't take tylenol I am likely to wake AGAIN after an hour or 2 of sleep and face the same issue again. I have found when I take tylenol in the middle of the night it helps me add a solid 4 hours to my sleep. A good example is last night. I woke at 1230 after 3 hours sleep. I tried to go back to sleep. After failing that it was 230 I took a single 500mg tylenol. Within 10 minutes I was asleep and woke up at 630am. I don't know why it works or how but I have noticed this time after time. The tylenol definitely enables my body to stay sleeping for an additional 4 hours. I don;t think it is pain relief as I have no chronic or other pain.
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Michmack
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by Michmack » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:37 am
Hello
I know this thread is old but couldn’t help notice that everyone had a different opinion about how Tylenol works
I also notice if I take half a tablet of Tylenol at night I get a much better sleep, but couldn’t figure it out as Tylenol is not supposed to be an anti-inflammatory like NSAIDS such as Advil.
On top of that, researchers have really been at odds about its exact mechanism of action.
I found this article tying in the endocannabiniod system as part of how it works:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29167401/
Good luck everyone!